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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiRaceParent View Post
    Agreed but natural snow isn't likely going to get you to open first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIKSKIER View Post
    Forgot the year but I would say somewhere in the 90's Cannon opened Oct 31st..I have that ticket somewhere.They up/down loaded from the tram.I would not think the tram would cost more than the detach to run,just the opposite.The tram would only run every 15 minutes to 1/2 hour for 7 minutes vs nonstop for the chair.I also have a ticket from May.The only times I remember them open in those 2 months.
    So they were running the Tram and the Cannonball chair? Seems like a chair would be cheaper to me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMadWorld View Post
    So they were running the Tram and the Cannonball chair? Seems like a chair would be cheaper to me too.
    How many operators for a chair vs the tram. The tram has at least one person at the bottom and one person to ride in the actual tram car. Does operating a tram require more than that. A chair would require at least one at the bottom and the top, but they usually have two at the bottom and one at the top? I would think that if they ran the tram 2 times an hour, it may be cost effective vs running a chair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMadWorld View Post
    So they were running the Tram and the Cannonball chair? Seems like a chair would be cheaper to me too.
    Why would you think running a motor non stop vs 20 minutes out of an hour is cheaper?
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    I wouldn't have a clue which lift if more expensive to run. There are many factors. Horsepower of the engines and fuel requirements, staffing, wear and tear repair costs. No idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIKSKIER View Post
    Why would you think running a motor non stop vs 20 minutes out of an hour is cheaper?
    It runs a lot higher up the mountain than the Peabody does. I'm no expert but I imagine running a tram requires more staffing than a quad.

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    4 people for tram and 3 for the chair.As far as hp is concerned,I don't know the numbers on motor size but I look at it like this...The tram carries 70 people in winter plus the weight of 2 trams but does lift another 650 ft higher.The chair can probably have double that at any one time plus the weight of probably 50 chairs.I'm pretty sure the tram motor is larger but I would bet it costs less to run it when the motor only runs 1/3 to 1/2 the time.The labor difference would not really factor in as they use full time employees like maintenance people a lot late and early season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIKSKIER View Post
    4 people for tram and 3 for the chair.As far as hp is concerned,I don't know the numbers on motor size but I look at it like this...The tram carries 70 people in winter plus the weight of 2 trams but does lift another 650 ft higher.The chair can probably have double that at any one time plus the weight of probably 50 chairs.I'm pretty sure the tram motor is larger but I would bet it costs less to run it when the motor only runs 1/3 to 1/2 the time.The labor difference would not really factor in as they use full time employees like maintenance people a lot late and early season.
    I don't really know much about any of this. But I did have a tram operator tell me something interesting once... The tram is cheaper to run in the summer than the winter because the weight of the people downloading (in summer) helps propel the upbound tram. In the winter, the downbound tram is always empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball View Post
    I don't really know much about any of this. But I did have a tram operator tell me something interesting once... The tram is cheaper to run in the summer than the winter because the weight of the people downloading (in summer) helps propel the upbound tram. In the winter, the downbound tram is always empty.
    And there are usually more people on it in the winter and they weigh more with ski equipment.
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    I'd guess the tram costs more to operate. Look at the haul rope, it's got to be 3 times the size of the quad. When they start the tram up the building shakes the quad just whines like a sewing machine. Even though the quad runs nonstop I still think it would be cheaper to run. Plus, the lodge is better. I've never parked in the tram parking lot.
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