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  1. #21
    Thanks all for good wishes.



    I put by accident a lot of what happened at mount Sinia hospital in subject . My dads MS has done it course over past dozen years. His last ski year was over a decade ago. He uses mostly wheel chair ands has now energy or strength basically on one side. He still mostly uppy his gf of last 20 years has been an excellent step mom and sinfant other. Basicly because of his conditions he was admitted day early . we knew in march he had c in his pprosite early but progressive. He can't have radtion because if ms. So they schedule this over 2 weeks ago take off time 2 days before surgery for wasted day to hospital my dad and his gf said. Hospital not good .6 am survey schedule we also take off in morning by aunt uncle his gf going to hospital and gat a call from my dad be eating breakfast because they didn't look at stress test which was in folder and on xoxmpuer file and talked about buy their doctor didn't look. Is probably have to wait another long time so it can spread. My dad OK with worse possible outcome be doesn't want or do well on travel outside the house which even worse in the warm days.

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    Am I reading correct that it's prostate cancer?

    I wish your father the best. My own father had prostate cancer at 60. He had it removed along with several future surgeries to "repair the plumbing", but is cancer free today at 69.

    I hope your dad has a similar outcome and his MS does not progress further.

    All the best Scotty

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    Thanks dhs yes that is the cancer he has glad to hear your dad survivor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjeff View Post
    Most Docs want to be employed, until they find out what being " employed" by a corporation means to their view of practice.

    I have many MD friends who at first loved the notion of being an employee of one of the local hospital based healthcare groups, with essentially the same $$ and less managerial responsibility, just to find that the often loss of autonomy was beyond frustrating
    I don't understand the career path choice for a newly minted GP or Pediatrician at a hospital-owned medical center. They usually have massive debt, don't get paid a helluva lot considering all the years of training, and it's a repetitive production line environment. If you have the talent to get admitted to a Medical School, there are far easier ways to earn that kind of money where you start earning it sooner without all that education debt.

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    A love of medicine and desire to help others?

    Obviously being a surgeon or specializing in other areas of medicine has the largest earning potential, but some people in the field prefer family practice.

    My doctor is 40ish years old, has a stay at home wife and a modest ski condo up at Sugarbush.

    Sounds pretty comfortable to me.

    He almost took one of the tuition discount programs to work at a critical access hospital in Northern Maine, but wanted to practice in the area he grew up.

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    Scotty first of all i am sorry to hear of your dad's situation . Just getting that message is always daunting . DHS is right on target , , today with approriate treatment and the advances in medicine , what formerly might have been considered miraculous cures are happening . One of my friends was diagnosed 10 yrs ago , underwent surgury and treated and today at 80 he is a magnificent skier . I have. 2 other friends both still skiers who are also prostate cancer surrvivors and they are 82 and have a high quality of life

    Stay positive Scotty , it will be the best medicine for your dad. Continue to be there for him ..

    all the best ,

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    [QUOTE=drjeff;904637]Most Docs want to be employed, until they find out what being " employed" by a corporation means to their view of practice.

    I have many MD friends who at first loved the notion of being an employee of one of the local hospital based healthcare groups, with essentially the same $$ and less managerial responsibility, just to find that the often loss of autonomy was beyond frustrating[/QUOTE


    IT is always about trade offs Doc , there is no ideal .

    You want a life , a guaranteed salary and "freedom " from oft crushing overhead , staffing expense , capital expenses , debt service expenses and beaucoup call back schedule demands for admitting with little risk management , then THIS is why the "new kids on the block " opt for employment rather than private practice . This TREND has been accellerating now for several years , it is not without problems . Even some senior level higly experienced and well known docs have crossed over lately . Its a tough environment and a difficult business in which to make decent margin . We as you know cannot withhold service and the amt of charity care is increasing as the economy and insurance industry denial mgt practices continue to calcify .

    What the employed docs do have to achieve however is ultimately covering their "share " of the indirect costs after a reasonable period .in establishing their practice ., for many that is 2/3 yrs down the pike
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    Spoke to dad yesterday. Still waiting for new appointment for another round at it. Again thanks everyone for well wishes. Family found out doctors had plane to catch on day of the surgery and couldn't look a head didn't realize so that why they canceled so messed up so hopefully before June I hope for now well past 3 months since it was discover ed so not happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    I don't understand the career path choice for a newly minted GP or Pediatrician at a hospital-owned medical center. They usually have massive debt, don't get paid a helluva lot considering all the years of training, and it's a repetitive production line environment. If you have the talent to get admitted to a Medical School, there are far easier ways to earn that kind of money where you start earning it sooner without all that education debt.
    My father was a pediatrician in the days of house calls.

    He wanted me to become a doctor also but came to realize in later years that medicine had changed. He sold his private practice to a group and worked for them for 20 years. He would laugh and tell me he would have sold out sooner if he knew he would get bonuses and paid twice as much as when he was independent. He was always proud of being a doctor, it defined his being. That has changed also.

    He admitted to me before he passed that he was glad I decided against medicine, that it is not what it was when he practiced. His kind of doctor is extinct now. We are in alot more trouble regarding healthcare than we imagine, politics aside.

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