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    Hmm... I never thought about going through St. Johnsbury. Google Maps says that taking I-89 to Richmond is a few minutes faster. But they are pretty close.


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    You know, I haven't timed out the Richmond route before. That's a good way as well. I just know typically when I go to Smuggs I go up to St. J and over. When I go to Stowe, it's 89 to 108.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    To go through the Notch to Smuggs from downtown Stowe takes about 20-25 minutes. To go around via Stagecoach Road and route 15, it's about 40-45 minutes. So, it really is only about 20 minutes further driving around.

    That said, in winter when you're coming from Boston you go a different route to Smuggs than you do to Stowe. Fastest route is to continue up 93 to Saint Johnsbury and grab 2 > 15 across.

    Google maps automatically routes via 108 and the Notch because that's the least mileage. That's where I assume Dlague got his time estimate from.
    I have gone that route coming from Nothern VT and never thought about that from the south. Yes, I generally get off the same exit on 89 as Stowe and drive around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steamboat1 View Post
    I'd love to see you make Smuggs in 20 minutes from the town of Stowe (108/100 intersection). That's Tuna speed.
    To be fair that's not what he said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    To be fair that's not what he said.


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    I'd love to see him make it in 40 minutes from that point. To be fair of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steamboat1 View Post
    I'd love to see him make it in 40 minutes from that point. To be fair of course.
    We followed the GPS to Smuggs which took us on 108 then had to drive around and it took us about 45 minutes. Get the damn cars off the road and I will do it in 20 from Stowe Center.
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    Not 20 minutes, but 35 is doable using Stagecoach road to skip driving through Morrisville and only marginally breaking the speed limit. Google maps has it at exactly 45 going through Morrisville via 100 to route 15. Not sure why Steamboat thinks 40-45 minutes from Stowe center to Smuggs is difficult. He must be misremembering the drive time.

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    Possibly,being our lodge is on the western side of the Greens when I do go to Smuggs I'd normally drive up rt.7 to Burlington & cut across from there. Been awhile since I drove there from the other side. I just remember it being quite a long drive seeing the two areas are right next to each other. Didn't know the short cut avoiding Morrisville which can get quite congested. On the other hand it's quicker to go over Brandon Gap & up rt.100 to get to Stowe.
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    I never realized, until we took the wrong path to Smuggs, just how close together they are. Is it even a half mile between Spruce Peak and the top of Sterling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlague View Post
    I never realized, until we took the wrong path to Smuggs, just how close together they are. Is it even a half mile between Spruce Peak and the top of Sterling?
    Sterling is the other side of Spruce Peak. They are both on the same mountain. Years ago we'd use a single ride coupon to ride the Big Spruce chair at Stowe & traverse across the top of the mountain & ski down into Smuggs or Madonna as it was called back then. There's a lake on top that's frozen in winter you have to traverse across.

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