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    USSA Proposes World Cup At Killington

    Wow - that would be a good thing.
    http://alpine.usskiteam.com/news/uss...cup-killington



    Sorry, forgot the link.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Superstar a little flat for a World Cup GS race? The top and bottom obviously have pitch, but the middle is pretty long and flat.

    Still pretty cool. Hope they get it. I'd definitely try to go

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    And POWDR is taking a page from the Park City playbook. POWDR's predecessor, Mr. Badami, made ski racing a big deal at Park City and gave these events a rock concert vibe. I'm sure that is the plan here as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Superstar a little flat for a World Cup GS race?
    No written rules pertaning to steepness other than for a slalom race. Should note, the lower "footwall" of Superstar is too steep. But what defines "very short parts of the course"? According to the DEM I downloaded, the steep bit exceeds 52% for about 140 feet long. It rarely gets flatter than 33%.

    Below are the rules for Ladies' WC SL and GS courses:

    Quote Originally Posted by FIS ICR
    800 Slalom

    801 Technical Data

    801.1 Vertical Drop

    801.1.2 Ladies' Courses
    For Olympic Winter Games, FIS World Ski Championships and FIS World
    Cup:
    - 140 - 220 m
    For all other FIS races:
    - 120 - 200 m

    802 The Courses

    802.1 General Characteristics of the Course

    802.1.1 At Olympic Winter Games and FIS World Ski Championships the course
    must be set on slopes with a gradient of approximately 33% to 45%. It
    may even be below approximately 33%, but may exceed approximately
    52% only in very short parts of the course.

    802.2 Width
    The course should be approximately 40 m wide, if two runs are set on the
    same slope.

    900 Giant Slalom

    901 Technical Data

    901.1 Vertical Drop

    901.1.2 Ladies' Courses
    - 250 m - 400 m

    901.1.3 For Olympic Winter Games, FIS World Ski Championships and FIS World
    Cup the minimum vertical drop is 300 m (Ladies and Men).

    902 The Courses

    902.1 General Characteristics of the Courses
    The terrain should preferably be undulating and hilly. The course should
    normally have a width of approximately 40 m.
    The inspector authorised to homologate the course decides whether this
    width is adequate and if necessary can order it to be widened. He can
    also permit a width of less than approximately 40 m depending on the line
    and terrain requirements, as long as the areas of the course before and
    after the narrow part enable this.
    Last edited by doublediamond; Oct 1, 2015 at 5:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublediamond View Post
    No written rules pertaning to steepness other than for a slalom race. Should note, the lower "footwall" of Superstar is too steep. But what defines "very short parts of the course"? According to the DEM I downloaded, the steep bit exceeds 52% for about 140 feet long. It rarely gets flatter than 33%.

    Below are the rules for Ladies' WC SL and GS courses:
    If they set across the hill, they can get around the steepness at the bottom. Seen it done before. If this happens...I am there!
    Last edited by andrec10; Oct 1, 2015 at 10:18 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrec10 View Post
    If they set across the hill, they can get around the steepness at the bottom. Seen it done before. If this happens...I am there!
    The middle section is still pretty flat though. All the recent GS courses I can think of are pretty uniform. If there's a problem with SS it's definitely cause of being too flat, not too steep, but I really doubt there's a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jully View Post
    The middle section is still pretty flat though. All the recent GS courses I can think of are pretty uniform. If there's a problem with SS it's definitely cause of being too flat, not too steep, but I really doubt there's a problem.
    A significant portion (1960 ft., apx, 37% of the length) of the Birds of Prey GS course is less than 33%. Ruthie's GS (Aspen, ladies) has that narrow traverse with about 430 feet less than 33%

    Quote Originally Posted by doublediamond
    [Superstar] rarely gets flatter than 33%.
    Superstar is nowhere near "too flat."
    Last edited by doublediamond; Oct 2, 2015 at 2:26 AM.

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    Would love to see a race at Mount Ellen....like they did way back in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    Would love to see a race at Mount Ellen....like they did way back in the day.
    +1

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    That's actually pretty cool. The location of that trail in relation to the lodge, base, and U-bars make it perfect. Very visible and well-known trail.
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