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    Chairlift Identification Help

    Hey all,

    I'm back with more chairlift questions. I've been putting together history videos for abandoned ski areas around the Mid Atlantic (and later NE too I'm hoping). I came across this area in the Poconos with a still standing double chair. However I could find very little information online about the area itself, let alone info on the lift. It appears to have been installed in 1972 per a nameplate on the bottom terminal, however the nameplate is only for the gearing in the drive, not the manufacturer of the rest of the lift components.

    Does anyone want to take a crack at identifying this based on the pictures? I'd appreciate any help!





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    That's a Borvig lift with 99% confidence. Has their trademark hanging sheaves off the towers.

    I don't have a great picture but you can see the same carrier shape and the same tower/sheave setup on the summit double at Thunder Ridge; pretty sure it's also from 1972 but I could be a couple years off.

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    Any pics of the terminal?
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    Agreed on being a Borvig, the square towers, tapered crossarms, and that bail design were common in the early 70s.

    Which resort is this? Pretty neat that the lift is very intact even though it's abandoned.

    This link may be helpful as well: http://www.skilifts.org/old/install_na1972.htm
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    Thanks for the tips! I actually found it on the skilifts.org list. I had checked previously, but didn't see the mountain's name. It's actually listed under the development company's name for the lift install, which is why I missed it. So its definitely a 1972 Borvig.

    The ski area's name was Kahkout Mountain. It's close to Shawnee Mountain, PA, and was developed by the same person, incidentally. It was one of the wave of private ski areas in the Poconos built for vacation communities in the 60s and 70s. Unfortunately these groups no longer have the money to run the ski areas, so most of them have either closed, transitioned to fully public ski areas, or gone public and then closed anyway. I believe the lift last ran in 2008.
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    That's a Borvig most likely from the early 70s since it uses some of their earliest designs. It is very similar to Snow Valley Vermont's double chair which has been abandoned since 1983. The only difference between the two is that the drive terminal on this is a pretty standard early Borvig monopod unit while Snow Valley's has a drive that I haven't seen on any other Borvig lift. Hope this helps.

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    Ok I've actually got another one!

    This time a t-bar. Installed in 1962 as best I can reckon, so its not on the skilifts list. It's quite overgrown so I'm sorry for the quality of the pictures. I didn't stop to take regular photos, these are just pulled from some video I was shooting.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsdower View Post
    Ok I've actually got another one!

    This time a t-bar. Installed in 1962 as best I can reckon, so its not on the skilifts list. It's quite overgrown so I'm sorry for the quality of the pictures. I didn't stop to take regular photos, these are just pulled from some video I was shooting.







    Not helping with ID but a location question . Apple hill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siliconebobsquarepants View Post
    Not helping with ID but a location question . Apple hill?
    That it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siliconebobsquarepants View Post
    Not helping with ID but a location question . Apple hill?
    Looks like an early model Hall T-Bar based on the towers and sheaves. The drive is probably Hall but I haven't seen that type on any of their other T-Bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slidebrook87 View Post
    Looks like an early model Hall T-Bar based on the towers and sheaves. The drive is probably Hall but I haven't seen that type on any of their other T-Bars.
    It wouldn't surprise me if the drive was modified at some point. This place was a very local operation.
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