The NEW Magic Mountain

RH29 · Mar 15, 2023

ne_skier said:
Here's what to expect groomed tomorrow from Magic's snow report. Obviously can't get to everything at once, especially with 3 feet of snow to work with, so it looks like they're packing it down in intervals, so to speak, with a priority on the low angle stuff.

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Looks good but I'd love if they could run at least one track up to the bottom of Tali. That runout can be rough.

RustyGroomer · Mar 16, 2023

Brownie is the FKN man. Wait til you see the run outs. Best I’ve ever seen . Trenches @ the exits of most steeps to get back. He did an amazing job.

RustyGroomer · Mar 16, 2023

DoWork

zoomzoom · Mar 16, 2023

in the event of a power failure, would a large backup genset be considered an APU by the state?

skiur · Mar 16, 2023

machski said:
Look, could Magic insulate itself from grid outages? Sure, especially on Black they could add a full AUX and back up APU. Those are not cheap however, both to get/install and to maintain. Most of the time you see those setups on main lifts in the Detach realms. Beyond that, if Magic isn't a huge power customer (very doubtful given their smaller Snowmaking plant and few lifts), then they won't be prioritized during outage events. Just how it works.

Who would they get to install the backup?

slatham · Mar 16, 2023

ne_skier said:
Here's what to expect groomed tomorrow from Magic's snow report. Obviously can't get to everything at once, especially with 3 feet of snow to work with, so it looks like they're packing it down in intervals, so to speak, with a priority on the low angle stuff.

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That’s just last night. For Wednesday they had groomed runouts on Wiz, Sorcerer, Tali, HOM, Wand and even had a single track on Showoff and Hocus Pocus. Didn’t see further east. They did the perfect post 3’ dump groom IMHO.

ne_skier · Mar 16, 2023

Played it right for sure. Runouts and most low angle stuff down by the Green lift except the Mystery bowl and maybe Vertigo skis better groomed anyways and this late in the season it's wise to pack it down. Definitely going to be a spring for the ages.

Skied Plattekill last weekend and leftover powder made for some of the best packed powder groomers I've ever seen. Never worn down, not a patch of ice. Can't wait to see how it skis.

Newpylong · Mar 16, 2023

zoomzoom said:
in the event of a power failure, would a large backup genset be considered an APU by the state?

No.

zoomzoom · Mar 16, 2023

when the original skye peak quad (iirc) was built at K, it was intended to have an aux hydraulic drive powered by a grooming machine. never worked, as there was enough pressure but too little flow. more field-testing at K of yanek kunczynski's ideas. good times.

ne_skier · Mar 16, 2023

That man was...uhh...innovative

jimmywilson69 · Mar 17, 2023

He was definitely an Idea man, that's for sure. he should've left the actual engineering and implementation to people that knew what they were doing.

machski · Mar 17, 2023

skiur said:
Who would they get to install the backup?

Not sure if Poma would do that or not. It is not cheap and not even sure that drive was set up to allow a "plug and play" type deal. If not, the entire drive terminal would need to be re-engineered to allow for all that. As I said, it would likely be big $$ and cannot see Magic spending that for what, mayve 3 days a year tops? But there are options out there.

slatham · Mar 17, 2023

They should just build a coal fired power plant next to the deck

Shit happens. You can’t build for every contingency and stay viable as a business.

Newpylong · Mar 17, 2023

If local acode allows you could physically do it (3 Phase Quick Disconnects - we used them for rental compressors all the time) but it does not satisfy the requirement of an APU because it is still using the same electric drive and motor.

skiur · Mar 17, 2023

machski said:
Not sure if Poma would do that or not. It is not cheap and not even sure that drive was set up to allow a "plug and play" type deal. If not, the entire drive terminal would need to be re-engineered to allow for all that. As I said, it would likely be big $$ and cannot see Magic spending that for what, mayve 3 days a year tops? But there are options out there.

Just saying that magic seems to have a tough time getting someone out there to work on their lifts regardless of the money.

machski · Mar 17, 2023

skiur said:
Just saying that magic seems to have a tough time getting someone out there to work on their lifts regardless of the money.

Yes true, but I don’t think they would go to the level of installing an APU on a lift anyway as a partial week open area.

KustyTheKlown · Mar 17, 2023

Just cancelled magic for Sunday. I’d rather be there for a thaw day than a freeze day for my last Indy use.

K or Stratton for (hmph) groomers

chuckstah · Mar 17, 2023

Today was good Spring-ish conditions by the third run. Everything open, hard to hit anything on most trails. A bit of sleet, mist early, a shower at upper elevation chased us out at around 3. Yeah, Sunday will be firm for sure. Tomorrow will be good

thetrailboss · Mar 17, 2023

Any familiar faces?

Up the lift at Magic Mountain

This week’s nor’easter turned around what many skiers and riders say was a less-than-stellar year.

www.wcax.com

ne_skier · Mar 18, 2023

Froze up hard last night, both the groomers and the bumps will need significant sun. Groom is very patchy as much of it is leftover from earlier in the week. Get those skis sharpened

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