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  1. #1371
    Ropes don’t matter. Read the terrain. Don’t be a dope. Ski the mountain.

  2. #1372
    Quote Originally Posted by bdfreetuna View Post
    Providing the solution of a lift up to access North Face, and use North Face lifts to the summit was a pretty good backup plan considering how screwed we could have been.
    But damn that last run home to Carinthia, where I was parked, almost killed me...lol! Took a run down Uncles toward end of day after spending most of it on NF and didn't leave quite enough in the tank to go back over. Was grateful to see Season Pass open (so I didn't have to go Canyon, back to NF to get up and over). But had to tuck and go most of it that run out to get back to the base. My legs were not happy.

  3. #1373
    Quote Originally Posted by jaywbigred View Post
    Awesome reports folks, much appreciated! I'm interested to hear how it is today and how many additional ropes drop.

    They reported 23 inches this morning, has me wondering how much more snow they need to get the bulk of the ropes dropped. Is the issue coverage at this point, or lack of staff to run lifts and patrol all the terrain? I feel like Dr. Jeff would know that answer...
    Depending on what the wind did/does, I would suspect that short of say Ripcord, they've probably got enough natural to open everything.

    I do see from their snow report that they've gone guns on on a few trails today, some of those trails that likely will be needed/requested by the Alpine Comp program which starts this weekend. So there may be a few trails where the ropes are up today not because of lack of snow, but because they've got snowmaking equipment, and in particular non tower mounted equipment, deployed across those trails (Ego Alley, Charlie's Chase, Fallen Timbers)

    Ripcord could present an interesting challenge for the snowmakers with all of this natural on it, as typically, when they're making snow on it, they make a really wet base layer to try and essentially "bond" that base layer to the rocks underneath on the pitch, and then back the water content in the guns down during roughly the 2nd half of the run time to get a surface that doesn't ski/ride like 6-12" of glorified elmer's glue when they drop the rope on it before it all dries out.

    With all of this natural snow, getting that adhesion between the rocks and the base snow have some different logistical issues to solve compared to past years.

    I would say that if Sunbrook isn't open this coming weekend, it's way more likely because of lack of staff than lack of snow. Given that it's now December, the annual arrival of the foreign workers should be starting, and lets hope that their training will go quickly and smoothly and that the ability of spin as many lifts as possible starts very soon!
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    February: 1,2,15,16,22,23 (Mount Snow) 3,5,12 (Mount Southington) 8 (Bromley) 9 (Stratton) 17 (Pico)

  4. #1374
    Quote Originally Posted by drjeff View Post
    Ripcord could present an interesting challenge for the snowmakers with all of this natural on it, as typically, when they're making snow on it, they make a really wet base layer to try and essentially "bond" that base layer to the rocks underneath on the pitch, and then back the water content in the guns down during roughly the 2nd half of the run time to get a surface that doesn't ski/ride like 6-12" of glorified elmer's glue when they drop the rope on it before it all dries out.
    Looking up Ripcord yesterday it did appear to have a "glue" base already established under the powder. By this, I mean the middle of the trail was a more yellow color (looked almost icy), where the natural snow was only partially bonding to the trail. The sides of the trails were all powder and got poached a bit.

    I'm not sure if snowmaking occurred on Ripcord at all but it did appear to have a base layer instead of just rock under snow.
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  5. #1375
    Quote Originally Posted by bdfreetuna View Post
    Looking up Ripcord yesterday it did appear to have a "glue" base already established under the powder. By this, I mean the middle of the trail was a more yellow color (looked almost icy), where the natural snow was only partially bonding to the trail. The sides of the trails were all powder and got poached a bit.

    I'm not sure if snowmaking occurred on Ripcord at all but it did appear to have a base layer instead of just rock under snow.
    That yellow color you saw is more than likely just natural ground water flowing and then freezing on the rock face. If you've ever seen the headwall on Ripcord in the non snow months, it has way more resemblance to a rocky cliff with some random underbrush growing out of some of the cracks in the rock than dirt/stones/grass that we typically associate with the appearance of a ski trail without snow on it.

    I do not believe that at any point thus far this season they have turned the HKD towers on Ripcord on and made snow yet. Plus, I can only imagine on a dark, sketchy night what a gun check run on that trail is like for the snowmaking crew when they're making snow on it...
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    '19 - '20 season:

    November: 16.17,23,29,30 (Mount Snow)
    December: 1,7,14,15,21,26,27,28,29,30 (Mount Snow) 16 (Mount Southington) 22 (Okemo) 31 (Berkshire East)
    January: 1,4,5,11,12,18,19,20,25,26 (Mount Snow) 6,13,23,27 (Mount Southington)
    February: 1,2,15,16,22,23 (Mount Snow) 3,5,12 (Mount Southington) 8 (Bromley) 9 (Stratton) 17 (Pico)

  6. #1376
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    I imagine this weekend will be a bit crowded....
    Lets go!
    I'll drive.

  7. #1377
    Quote Originally Posted by kingslug View Post
    I imagine this weekend will be a bit crowded....
    Yup. Add in that some of the seasonal programs start this weekend, as well as that at least for now, lifts won't spin until 9 this weekend (the kick back to 8AM 1st chair on the weekends is scheduled to start the following Saturday, the 14th, and the line for 1st chair, especially in the main base area, is likely going to do a good job at filling up a decent percentage of the queue lanes at the opening bell.

    Hopefully if they have the staff to spin say greater than 50% of their lifts, with the added acreage that will be in play, the downhill experience shouldn't be too bad
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    '19 - '20 season:

    November: 16.17,23,29,30 (Mount Snow)
    December: 1,7,14,15,21,26,27,28,29,30 (Mount Snow) 16 (Mount Southington) 22 (Okemo) 31 (Berkshire East)
    January: 1,4,5,11,12,18,19,20,25,26 (Mount Snow) 6,13,23,27 (Mount Southington)
    February: 1,2,15,16,22,23 (Mount Snow) 3,5,12 (Mount Southington) 8 (Bromley) 9 (Stratton) 17 (Pico)

  8. #1378
    Excellent morning. Most of yesterday's 19" settled in and dried out. Last night's snow was all Utah blower so not the big bottomless powder runs I was hoping for but instead the natural trails are now covered in a perfect base and beautifully soft on top.



    There are a few areas of untracked still on South Bowl, Exhibition, and that general area but it's all wind packed. Some sweer lines still available in the woods. Bluebird has a decent line, but North Face is empty.
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  9. #1379
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    Weekend decisions...decisions...Hunter Saturday might be a mess..but will it be a bigger mess than Mt Snow..hmmm
    Lets go!
    I'll drive.

  10. #1380
    Quote Originally Posted by kingslug View Post
    Weekend decisions...decisions...Hunter Saturday might be a mess..but will it be a bigger mess than Mt Snow..hmmm
    Mt. Snow is out of range for me. I'm leaning more and more toward Hunter.

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