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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Jully, just so you know if I was to think about taking public transportation to Foxboro from my house it would be Commute rail from Beverly to Boston, orange line to Red line to South Station and then commuter rail from South station to Foxboro. Round trip cost would be $37. That pays for gas and parking if I take my car.
    $37 round trip per person so if you went with 3 other people it would be $148!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    On the front page of the local newspaper today there was article about self-driving cars and how a lot of people simply aren't interested in them and even don't want them. In some recent poll, 75% of people said they would still rather keep driving themselves even if automated driving was available to them. Over 70% said they would "miss" driving if we moved towards self-driving cars.
    Too early, but the consumer will change.

    Barnes & Noble came out with e-readers circa 1998, and it was basically a complete flop. Pffttt.... who wants that? Nobody wants to read on a SCREEN they said! Same thing will happen with driverless cars. Once they get on the road and folks get used to the idea and grow familiar with them, people will want them.


    Quote Originally Posted by gregnye View Post
    People always argue that the car represents freedom in the U.S. and that not having a car prevents freedom.

    Correct; and the reason they argue that is because in 99% of the geography, that's a true statement.
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  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by Smellytele View Post
    $37 round trip per person so if you went with 3 other people it would be $148!
    Same here.

    It's now up to an insane $32.50 per person to get into Manhattan from where I am in Jersey! LOL.

    Something like a 100% cost increase in less than 10 years = Yeah, no thanks.
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  4. #244
    30 mins ??? Try waiting 3 hours for the next bus.

    In Boston you wait 30 mins for a T bus IF it is running on time. Not uncommon to wait 45+ mins....


    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Last time I was in NYC I missed the bus back home by literally about 60 seconds (saw it pulling away just as I got to the gate). So annoying having to stand around and wait another 30 minutes for the next bus. I don't like having to plan around set schedules because there's just no flexibility.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by 2Planker View Post
    30 mins ??? Try waiting 3 hours for the next bus.

    In Boston you wait 30 mins for a T bus IF it is running on time. Not uncommon to wait 45+ mins....
    Yea, in NYC/NJ it depends on the route and time of day. The bus route I would use is one of the more popular ones that has very frequent departures most days and at most times during the day. There are other routes to other places in NJ from NYC that are far less frequent.

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by gregnye View Post
    People always argue that the car represents freedom in the U.S. and that not having a car prevents freedom.

    I disagree. While getting a car might make you feel free when you're back in High School, commuting everyday by car is the least-free thing you can imagine. Traffic everywhere. At least in the Boston Metro area where I live.

    And people always argue against trains because "with cars I can leave when I want". But what they don't realize is that they are not really leaving when they want in a car. Say you have to be at work by 9 in Boston and you live in southern NH, that 5 minutes that you have of flexibility in leaving could severely increase your commute time. Leaving 5-10 mins later than "usual" makes all the difference when its rush-hour traffic. I know people who wake up at 4:45 just to beat the morning commute (and still run into traffic)--thats also not leaving "when you want".

    Rather than pushing the idea of a car as "freedom" we as a country should make our train systems more robust and push the idea of a trains as "reliability". Yes, a train has a fixed schedule, but good train service surpasses anything cars can offer (see Europe). And you can sleep/text during the commute!!

    After a long day of skiing the last thing I want to do is drive the 3 hours home. If there was a train that took me home in 3 hours or less I would take it.
    IMO, people driving from Southern NH to Boston daily for work are insane.
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  7. #247
    As I'm driving my car on interstates in New England and the Northeast I do wonder about a new high speed train system but building it would be way too expensive and too many NIMBYS. One thing that struck me was why not use the massive footprint that the interstates take up and put rails either on the shoulder and/or in the median? There would be some issues of large percent grades but would think that could be solved. The stations could correspond with exits so cars could easily get there to pick you up. Doesn't have to be every exit.

    I do love my car and do not know what I would do without it. But if I could take a relaible train to Waterbury and be picked up to go to SB and back on Sunday, I would seriously consider it. I would love to apres on Sunday!!!

  8. #248
    IMO, people who live in Mass are insane. Lol

    I make the commute down to the city a couple of days a week. It blows, but I can't deal with Boston metro traffic even on the weekends. Happy to keep my sanity a bit North of the border

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  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Jcb890 View Post
    IMO, people driving from Southern NH to Boston daily for work are insane.
    I cannot believe that Mass does not have tolls on 93 and 3 at the border and only on the Pike. Would certainly help take care of the roads. There are tolls in NH so poeple shouldn't complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smellytele View Post
    I agree. There would never be enough weekday passengers. With one train running Friday evening, Saturday and Sunday AM and PM no way can they afford building the track.
    This statement is the crux of the problem. The expectation a rail line has to be profitable. We, as a society, have to come together and put $ into the public good. Not worry about profitability. We put tax dollars into the millions of miles of roads, and don't expect profitability. Maybe instead of adding a 4th lane to a highway, adding public transportation may make the 4th lane unnecessary. I am no way advocating or debating for this - but after seeing traffic grow so much around me, with new condo complexes being added to places without any public transportation - there really is no longer a way to build our way out with new roads and traffic signals. At some point we all have to agree to fix this. May not be for 50 years until we can no longer move our car around - but it also seems to be unsustainable growth.


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