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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by KustyTheKlown View Post

    and you lack any historical perspective. these multi mountain passes are new-ish. years ago there were only single mountain passes, which generally ran >$1000. you now have multiple multi mountain pass options under $1000, and the indies have lowered their individual season pass prices to be competitive with the conglomerates. the inexpensive pass options at places like bolton and magic are absurd. magic has like 15 different configurations of their pass.
    This. I don't remember exact figures but if I am remembering correctly, when I was in my late 20's a Killington pass (and then they did come out with the American Ski Company ski the east pass... or some similar name) was something like $1200 for early season purchase and there was no discount for being under 30. It took about 20 days of skiing before the pass started to "pay off".

    At some point they started in with the bronze, silver and gold passes and they became pretty cheap...and brought the crowds with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edd View Post
    What passes did you go with this year?
    Alta/Snowbird and a Brighton night pass.


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  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by boston_e View Post
    This. I don't remember exact figures but if I am remembering correctly, when I was in my late 20's a Killington pass (and then they did come out with the American Ski Company ski the east pass... or some similar name) was something like $1200 for early season purchase and there was no discount for being under 30. It took about 20 days of skiing before the pass started to "pay off".
    But the day tickets were cheaper! Even in my lifetime I've seen walk-up day tickets in the $60-70 range. And $70 was Loon. Now it's almost $100 a day (or over if it's out west).

    This is simply a transition to a subscription-based model. Every company wants to do it now, ever since the success of the cell phone industry. We don't pay for CD's or per song (on iTunes) anymore. Now it's subscription-based Spotify and Netflix or even worse Adobe Creative Cloud (this one really annoys me).

    Subscription-based models are preferred because the income comes in every month regardless what happens. Recently ski areas are jumping in on this model and its just annoying. I like flexibility and not commitment. I like being able to pick the ski area with the highest snow total and ski it once. I like cheap day tickets.


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    My only complaint is that they took away Catskills and NY state and are not bringing them back. That was giving NY skiers good closer options as I have a 9 yr old daughter and hard to drive 4+ hrs each way for two days of skiing.

    If I were Epic, Id have done something on that to grab the NY market.


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    Yea, definitely missing the NY spots from max on ikon ... would love to see them grab windham and partner with nys for the others

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by lerops View Post
    My only complaint is that they took away Catskills and NY state and are not bringing them back. That was giving NY skiers good closer options as I have a 9 yr old daughter and hard to drive 4+ hrs each way for two days of skiing.

    If I were Epic, I’d have done something on that to grab the NY market.


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    Gotta wonder if there was some kind of disconnect between NY state and Alterra on the kickback $ from each day skied. You'd think they would've tried as hard as they could to get Belleayre, Gore, and Whiteface on Epic as NYC would be a huge market for them.
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  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by boston_e View Post
    This. I don't remember exact figures but if I am remembering correctly, when I was in my late 20's a Killington pass (and then they did come out with the American Ski Company ski the east pass... or some similar name) was something like $1200 for early season purchase and there was no discount for being under 30. It took about 20 days of skiing before the pass started to "pay off".

    At some point they started in with the bronze, silver and gold passes and they became pretty cheap...and brought the crowds with them.
    New England Ski History has a fairly decent amount of data on full adult season pass prices as well as day ticket prices.

    For example for Killington: https://newenglandskihistory.com/Vermont/killington.php
    Scroll down near the bottom to the "Year by Year History" section. There are some gaps in the data, but still lots of interesting info in there.

  8. #38
    I thought Peak had it priced best with the tiered product offering 3-4 years ago pre-Hunter.

    IIRC it was about $900 for the full Noreaster pass that included Snow, Attitash, Cat and Crotched.

    Then you had the Granite Pass for the NH 3 at like $700

    And a Crotched pass at about $300

    The introduction of the Ranger pass was still a financial jump for Crotched skiers. They were pissed about it. But you could still ski Holidays on a cheaper pass. Now that has gone away for next season.

    Makes zero sense for primarily Crotched skiers to pay Mt Snow rates while also offering a cheap as shit pass price valid at Mt Snow to bring in even more crowds.



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  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by drjeff View Post
    As a parent, I am just happy that Peak "came to their senses" a few years ago and dropped the cost of their kids pass to the same price point as the drifter pass for the 18-29 crowd..

    The older model where the kids pass was $250-$300 more than the drifter pass often felt like a slap in the face to families that ski....

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    A slap in the face is exactly how crotched families feel today. Peaks made the decision to raise the price on middle class families in rural
    New Hampshire, not the DC crowd, not the Philadelphia crowd, not the nyc crowd - rural new hampshire families that commit a significant percentage of their household income towards passes, kids programs, food, booze, etc

    All the while their two other mountains in nh offer undrinkable water and a non functioning summit lift. And on top of it families with kids are forced to buy k spring passes because wildcat stays open for the mass kids on april vacation, then closes midweek for the local kids vacation.
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  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by KustyTheKlown View Post
    shame on you for ever holding a stratton only pass in the first place
    Phantasy tour black board is thataway bro ---≥>>

    Pretty sure Brownstein would call you out on some of the elitist hettier than tho posts you've been posting up lately.

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