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    Quote Originally Posted by JimG. View Post
    Peaks runs ski areas...although the fact that a lift ops had to be revived from an overdose is pretty chilling.
    Is that a fact?

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    I wonder at what point PEOPLE will start taking responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming others for their downfalls. Back in the late 70s early 80s there was a big push in medicine for pain control, after many years criticism from the public that their pain was poorly controlled after surgeries. To the point that there was a push to include pain in all vital sign rounds, "pain is the fifth vital" was the mantra in nursing and medical schools.

    The big bad rich people created a medicine that is effective in treating pain. Pain which most should never have complained about in the first place but as a society we are soft, so the Sackler's seized the opportunity.

    Was the drug abused, yes. Was it misrepresented, probably. Is it their fault people started taking their pills three-four times more frequently and double and triple the prescribed doses, absolutely not. Nowhere on the drug information sheets does it say it is acceptable to chew them (because it gets you high instead of slow release as intended), nowhere does it say crush an snort as an acceptable route of administration (because it gets you high instead of treating pain as intended).

    We as a society need to stop passing the buck and take responsibility for our own actions. I couldn't care who owns what as long as they keep the lights on. I have way more important shit to worry about - mainly keeping my kids safe and healthy and teaching them to stay away from all the bad shit that goes on in this world.


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    That certainly is the sacklers side of the story.
    Do you know how many americans died from opioids last year alone? I believe its about 47,000. dead. In one year. Thats a lot of "irresponsible" people. Its quite the coincidence that this epidemic exploded after purdue flooded the country with oxy for everything. and the evidence is pretty clear that they were well aware of how addictive it was and furthermore that it was being abused on a massive scale. Its kind of ironic that you preach about responsibility while denying any culpability on the part of the drug dealers who made billions of dollars selling a product which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of americans.

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    That certainly is the sacklers side of the story.
    Do you know how many americans died from opioids last year alone? I believe its about 47,000. dead. In one year. Thats a lot of "irresponsible" people. Its quite the coincidence that this epidemic exploded after purdue flooded the country with oxy for everything. and the evidence is pretty clear that they were well aware of how addictive it was and furthermore that it was being abused on a massive scale. Its kind of ironic that you preach about responsibility while denying any culpability on the part of the drug dealers who made billions of dollars selling a product which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of americans.
    Alcohol kills many more people each year than opioids, but every ski area has bars plus many events sponsored by beer. How come nobody is up in arms over that? Budweiser makes billions of dollars selling a product which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of americans. But beer is socially acceptable while heroine is not so nobody is upset......just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiur View Post
    Alcohol kills many more people each year than opioids, but every ski area has bars plus many events sponsored by beer. How come nobody is up in arms over that? Budweiser makes billions of dollars selling a product which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of americans. But beer is socially acceptable while heroine is not so nobody is upset......just sayin
    When's the last time somebody OD'd violently on alcohol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funky_Catskills View Post
    When's the last time somebody OD'd violently on alcohol?
    I guess technically any DUI death could be considered an OD. Wouldn't be dead if you didn't over use alcohol. 1 death every 50 min in the US. Somehow alcohol gets a pass though.

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    I feel ya - but I think both drugs are different. Opiates are more immediately addictive and dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funky_Catskills View Post
    I feel ya - but I think both drugs are different. Opiates are more immediately addictive and dangerous.
    Alcohol can be extremely addictive to some people and has destroyed many families, dont get me wrong, I love to drink, but lets call a spade a spade. I know plenty of people who have drank themselves to death and have ruined there lives and the lives of their families. To someone with an addictive personality alcohol can be just as addictive as opioids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skiur View Post
    Alcohol can be extremely addictive to some people and has destroyed many families, dont get me wrong, I love to drink, but lets call a spade a spade. I know plenty of people who have drank themselves to death and have ruined there lives and the lives of their families. To someone with an addictive personality alcohol can be just as addictive as opioids.
    All very true.
    But opioids can/will kill or have you addicted on the first dose..
    I love whiskey - but I'd never touch opioids.. Because I've seen how fast people get fucked up on it. And helped people get undone from it.. And have lost a few people because of it.. Way more than alcohol.. Which I know is dangerous..

    Don't EVER do them... ever.. unless there's no other choice for pain relief..

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiur View Post
    Alcohol kills many more people each year than opioids, but every ski area has bars plus many events sponsored by beer. How come nobody is up in arms over that? Budweiser makes billions of dollars selling a product which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of americans. But beer is socially acceptable while heroine is not so nobody is upset......just sayin
    Are alcohol and opioids comparable when were discussing addiction? Both are addictive, but opioids are likely in a different category. Also, alcohol is 1000x more available. People take up arms against the booze but alcohol isnt used for medical reasons. Its apples and oranges.

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    I like whiskey...

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