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    Quote Originally Posted by prsboogie View Post
    I wonder at what point PEOPLE will start taking responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming others for their downfalls. Back in the late 70s early 80s there was a big push in medicine for pain control, after many years criticism from the public that their pain was poorly controlled after surgeries. To the point that there was a push to include pain in all vital sign rounds, "pain is the fifth vital" was the mantra in nursing and medical schools.

    The big bad rich people created a medicine that is effective in treating pain. Pain which most should never have complained about in the first place but as a society we are soft, so the Sackler's seized the opportunity.

    Was the drug abused, yes. Was it misrepresented, probably. Is it their fault people started taking their pills three-four times more frequently and double and triple the prescribed doses, absolutely not. Nowhere on the drug information sheets does it say it is acceptable to chew them (because it gets you high instead of slow release as intended), nowhere does it say crush an snort as an acceptable route of administration (because it gets you high instead of treating pain as intended).

    We as a society need to stop passing the buck and take responsibility for our own actions. I couldn't care who owns what as long as they keep the lights on. I have way more important shit to worry about - mainly keeping my kids safe and healthy and teaching them to stay away from all the bad shit that goes on in this world.


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    Nope.
    Purdue Pharma lied about Oxycontin from the moment they started selling it. They have admitted they lied and been convicted. They branded their version of heroin and then told Drs that it was not addicting.


    Here is one of the first convictions from 2007:
    http://www.pharmatimes.com/news/purdue_pharma_admits_lies_over_oxycontin_painkille r_risks_989853



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    Quote Originally Posted by x10003q View Post
    Nope.
    Purdue Pharma lied about Oxycontin from the moment they started selling it. They have admitted they lied and been convicted. They branded their version of heroin and then told Drs that it was not addicting.


    Here is one of the first convictions from 2007:
    http://www.pharmatimes.com/news/purdue_pharma_admits_lies_over_oxycontin_painkille r_risks_989853


    I wonder if pain meds are our generation's "big tobacco" with revelations coming about misleading information and tactics by manufacturers resulting in massive litigation and changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funky_Catskills View Post
    Is that a fact?
    Admittedly I did not see it myself but heard about it from several sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiur View Post
    Alcohol kills many more people each year than opioids, but every ski area has bars plus many events sponsored by beer. How come nobody is up in arms over that? Budweiser makes billions of dollars selling a product which has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of americans. But beer is socially acceptable while heroine is not so nobody is upset......just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimG. View Post
    Admittedly I did not see it myself but heard about it from several sources.
    I have yet to hear about it from a reliable source.
    Also - never hit the press and my friend who's a cop in town didn't hear..

    It's a bad rumour to spread imho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edd View Post
    Are alcohol and opioids comparable when we’re discussing addiction? Both are addictive, but opioids are likely in a different category. Also, alcohol is 1000x more available. People take up arms against the booze but alcohol isn’t used for medical reasons. It’s apples and oranges.
    People dont drink to feel better? Alcohol has fucked up many more lives than opioids have, both extremely addictive and both send billions to some corrupt corporation that knows its product is killing millions. Seems like apples to apples to me. And we are not discussing addiction, we are discussing the Sackler family buying a majority of Peaks


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    [QUOTE=Funky_Catskills;1022245]I have yet to hear about it from a reliable source.
    Also - never hit the press and my friend who's a cop in town didn't hear..

    It's a bad rumour to spread imho...[/QUOTE

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    I wonder if pain meds are our generation's "big tobacco" with revelations coming about misleading information and tactics by manufacturers resulting in massive litigation and changes.
    Not really, there were some bad actors, but much of it is overblown from the institutional level.

    Also, with "big tobacco" everyone is in it together, whereas with these pills, all pharmaceutical companies are being maligned even though very few of them actually even sell the products, which just goes to demonstrate how little the people doing most of the maligning even know about the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiur View Post
    People dont drink to feel better? Alcohol has fucked up many more lives than opioids have, both extremely addictive and both send billions to some corrupt corporation that knows its product is killing millions. Seems like apples to apples to me. And we are not discussing addiction, we are discussing the Sackler family buying a majority of Peaks
    Oh, I could’ve sworn you compared beer vs. heroine in your post (you did). I agree, alcohol is bad, but doctors don’t prescribe alcohol. They prescribe opioids, similar to heroin.

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    I have been avoiding this as this is a horrible subject and people are going off on fucked up tangents.
    Opioids have their place in pain management but their marketing and prescribing has been corrupted. Yes some people abuse them as well but some took them as prescribed and became addicted. More alternatives need to be found to opioids for pain management.
    An usher in my wedding was prescribed oxy and became addicted. When he could no long get a prescription he began using heroin at age 40 and over dosed a few months later. Sad


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