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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffy View Post
    We need to stop coddling our kids and teach the[m] responsibility...
    ^ Short version.



    I see way too many parents sitting at the end of their driveways with the engine idling and their precious young thing in the car waiting for the school bus. And not just 1st graders, young teens. What does this teach a child? What does this keep a child/young adult from learning? How big is the risk realistically of some evil doer swooping down on your child before they can run to your door vs what happens when they are alone on the bus or in the schoolyard or at the mall?

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by mister moose View Post
    ^ Short version.

    I see way too many parents sitting at the end of their driveways with the engine idling and their precious young thing in the car waiting for the school bus. And not just 1st graders, young teens. What does this teach a child? What does this keep a child/young adult from learning? How big is the risk realistically of some evil doer swooping down on your child before they can run to your door vs what happens when they are alone on the bus or in the schoolyard or at the mall?
    Just curious, do you have kids? Assuming no with the way you use “precious young thing”. Not agreeing or disagreeing with your point but in my opinion if you don’t have kids it’s not really one you are qualified to make.


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  3. #103
    Utah sets record. Up 12% from previous record, up 24% from previous year - that is a HUGE increase.
    2019/20 = 23 Cut Short!
    2018/19 = 36
    2017/18 = 37
    2016/17 = 31
    2015/16 = Depressing
    2014/15 = 28
    2013/14 = 27

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by slatham View Post
    Utah sets record. Up 12% from previous record, up 24% from previous year - that is a HUGE increase.
    And waiting for thw spin that it was all season pass holders and not Ikon...yeah, ok.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by tumbler View Post
    And waiting for thw spin that it was all season pass holders and not Ikon...yeah, ok.
    SAM article focused on the snow, though did mention "We also gained new visitors through expanded season pass options". IMHO snow was main driver, but on those busy days the EPIC/Ikon pass situation probably sent things off the ledge......

    Every resort had above average snow. One resort saw 111 out of 151 days with measurable snow. Never had a stretch longer than 7 days without snow.

    And this was through April 15th. Lots of winter weather after that, including now!
    2019/20 = 23 Cut Short!
    2018/19 = 36
    2017/18 = 37
    2016/17 = 31
    2015/16 = Depressing
    2014/15 = 28
    2013/14 = 27

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by slatham View Post
    Utah sets record. Up 12% from previous record, up 24% from previous year - that is a HUGE increase.
    Yep. Over 5 million skier/rider days and still counting with Snowbird.

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46556872...gh-this-season

    The spin: it was the snow. There is some truth to that. I also agree with what someone else has said here as to other factors--the economy is good and a certain pass product debuted this year. If you watch the clip, you hear Nathan admit that "if you had a season pass in your pocket you were going to use it", so that is at least an indirect reference.

    And one inch of snow = $2.8 million in business to the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumbler View Post
    And waiting for thw spin that it was all season pass holders and not Ikon...yeah, ok.
    That's actually quite easy!

    Look across both side of the road between Park City and Deer Valley. The increase in PC will be entirely due to good snow. The increase in DV will be snow+Ikon

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by abc View Post
    That's actually quite easy!

    Look across both side of the road between Park City and Deer Valley. The increase in PC will be entirely due to good snow. The increase in DV will be snow+Ikon
    Disagree. I think there has been more take-up of the Epic pass the last couple years due to 1) better awareness and 2) the addition of 3 popular East Coast areas that have clientele likely to hit PC.

    Though I agree the impact of Ikon to DV is greater than the new Epic pass-holders to PC.
    2019/20 = 23 Cut Short!
    2018/19 = 36
    2017/18 = 37
    2016/17 = 31
    2015/16 = Depressing
    2014/15 = 28
    2013/14 = 27

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    On your first point, the Epic pass awareness does not spike, unlike Ikon.

    To your 2nd point regarding the addition of east coast resorts, Ikon also has several east coast mountains. So perhaps it washes out between the two. If so, we’re left with the western Ikon impact of DV. Still easy to work out what that is.

    To your last point, that’s a “conclusion” that data to support or refute, instead of guesses and speculations. I would like to be proven right. But I were proven wrong, I'd still prefer to know it rather than not knowing.
    Last edited by abc; May 23, 2019 at 11:10 AM.

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    How do ski areas that don't scan tickets/passes guess how many days a season pass holder skis?
    2010/11 - 30days 2011/12 - 29days 2012/13 - 40 days 2013/14 - 39 days 2014/15 - 42 days
    2015/2016 -27 days 2016/17 - 51 days 2017/18 - 57 days 2018/19 - 75 days

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