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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by abc View Post
    Thatís one way of looking at it.

    To believe people who donít come to North Creek because they were too busy chasing big name peaks. When the real reason they donít come is because they canít find a room to sleep or a place that serves decent food.

    One effective way to discourage tourism is not to provide service, ON PURPOSE.

    That said, not every place needs tourist, especially places where the locals are sustaining the economy well.
    I should be clear, this is another area where my opinion is not mainstream. Many or even maybe most agree that if "they" would build some beds that Gore would become more of a destination.

    Who is they? I believe that if there was unserved demand the few options that are available would be full and they would be expanded or more competition would come in. There are some nice houses in town that could be rented too. They are to some extent, but not too capacity.

    Gore is relatively easy to get to for a lot of people in the Hudson Valley, downstate NY and parts of NJ. Maybe not easy, but easier than Killington. (Magic is about the same drive time from my house, but I get there less because I have a place to stay at Gore.



    But, as mentions much of VT gets more snow. 100 more inches at K is a big deal, 10 inches more per week for 10 weeks. And because SoVT has a lot of slopeside, it's "easier" to take a family, where everyone doesn't want to ski on the same schedule.

    I don't think any of this is on purpose. ORDA and the locals all want more business.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Smellytele View Post
    Better than Magic? I think not. I like Gore more than any other in So VT.
    Magic is awesome. I've only skied in a few times, but I love the terrain, and there's a distinct lack of dynamite used. Gore's lowest elevation terrain (Old Gore aka The Ski Bowl) is like this to some extent.

    I felt welcomed by people I didn't know too. I'm not exactly a ripper, but I do tend to ski with a lot of true experts. I know enough people at Gore so that I can find skiers who are willing to ski with me. Magic was like that, people wait for you to pop out of the trees, and I'm basically a stranger there.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    I don't think any of this is on purpose. ORDA and the locals all want more business.
    I always heard a story that when Rt 28 was being built, the North Creek old timers specifically wanted it routed AROUND downtown instead of through it like originally planned. "We don't want tourists parking on our street and taking up spots for us locals."

    Granted this was ages ago...but I still think it is a decent anecdote that shows why Gore is the way it is and has the reputation that it does for having nothing around it. And while it does have some lodging (which can be underutilized at times), it still has the perception from many people that there's nothing there at all. So it is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. People think there's nothing there so they stay away which deflates demand. Even if they did build more, it would either take a long time or a very strong marketing campaign to change the existing perception and increase the demand.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Smellytele View Post
    My favorite ski areas all have no on mountain lodging (Wildcat, Cannon, Mad River Glen, A-basin and Loveland) All have lodging within a half hour as does Gore. Is staying a little over a half hour away such a hassle? Better than driving from 3 hours away.
    I can't speak for the others, but MRG isn't a good comparison in my mind. There's quite a bit of lodging within just a few minutes of MRG (plus tons of restaurant choices unlike Gore). I actually think if Gore was like the MRV area, it would be ideal.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    No problem with the link.

    Burnt Ridge sounds fantastic. I wouldn't want to see it changed either. Ironically, Sugarloaf skiers often speculate on putting a lift in on Burnt Mountain. If they were ever to do a lift, I'd want to see only what Gore has done with their Burnt; lift line trail only and the rest glades. Sugarloaf Burnt terrain requires a significant hike up to ski. I'd estimate at least an hour to get to the top, which I haven't done. If skied all the way down it can take about 30 minutes to hike back to the resort. That I have done. They added a fee based Cat skiing program to provide easier access. Sounds like they'll just stick to that and not add a lift.

    I'm with cdskier. I like terrain that's cut and left natural only. That represents about 20 of the 48 trails at Wildcat. Some of those trails had snowmaking at one point, but they no longer use it. Most of the clientele prefers it that way. It can really limit options during natural snow droughts, but the payoff is much better skiing when it snows. If I get bored during drought periods, I simply head to Attitash for the day or sometimes I'll ski the morning at Wildcat and the afternoon at Attitash. Plenty of groomed snowmaking terrain over there. I'd argue too much in fact.

    One of these years I'll make it over to Gore. Sounds like my kinda place. Tough slog from the NH Seacoast.
    Burnt at Gore will change and that trail will get put in. Many (not me but many) dislike the traverses between Gore's 4 peaks. By adding that new trail it will make it easier for non-tree skiers to go from Burnt Ridge to Little Gore. I could care less about traversing. I'm a nordic skier on free heels and I like it. How many of those people whining about the traverses have gym memberships? The area has deep nordic roots and there are a ton of teleskiers on the hill. The traverse to Burnt or where ever is part of our day. My buddy Duck, one time on a lark went from the summit of Gore all the way to bottom of little Gore, in something like 15 minutes, basically hitting almost every traverse. Granted he was going as fast as he could, but really it is not that bad. IMO.

    It is tough to get across from NH. Riverc0il came to ski with me once, we did one day at Gore and one at Whiteface. Conditions were prime and we got into the slides so I think it was worth it for him.

    I've been to NH once. Conditions were thin, but I loved Wildcat and Mittersill the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    I can't speak for the others, but MRG isn't a good comparison in my mind. There's quite a bit of lodging within just a few minutes of MRG (plus tons of restaurant choices unlike Gore). I actually think if Gore was like the MRV area, it would be ideal.
    Okay but the others are similar. Wildcat has North Conway, Cannon - Lincoln, Gore - Lake George.
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  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    I always heard a story that when Rt 28 was being built, the North Creek old timers specifically wanted it routed AROUND downtown instead of through it like originally planned. "We don't want tourists parking on our street and taking up spots for us locals."

    Granted this was ages ago...but I still think it is a decent anecdote that shows why Gore is the way it is and has the reputation that it does for having nothing around it. And while it does have some lodging (which can be underutilized at times), it still has the perception from many people that there's nothing there at all. So it is sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. People think there's nothing there so they stay away which deflates demand. Even if they did build more, it would either take a long time or a very strong marketing campaign to change the existing perception and increase the demand.
    The bypass is a factor and also the fact that the mountain is closer to the skiers than the town are both factors. Even without the bypass 95% of skiers can get to Gore without passing through town. That certainly hurts business.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Don't get that one either...

    Not only do I think it is ok to not install snowmaking in the same year the trail is cut, I think in some cases it is ok to never have snowmaking installed on some trails!
    I agree.

    One of the kids at Gore came out with something a few years ago that has stuck:

    "Daddy thin cover is secret code for good snow!"

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    One of these years I'll make it over to Gore. Sounds like my kinda place.
    I think you'd like Plattekill even more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smellytele View Post
    Better than Magic? I think not.
    Yes, easily better than Magic.

    I do realize there are people on this board that you're not even allowed to say Zermatt or Whistler Blackcomb are better than Magic, but taken in toto, yes, Gore is better than Magic. And I love Magic.
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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    I agree.

    One of the kids at Gore came out with something a few years ago that has stuck:

    "Daddy thin cover is secret code for good snow!"
    I'll take thin cover natural snow over man-made hard pack/ice any day!

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