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Vail Resorts is buying Peak Resorts.

raisingarizona

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Can you run a t-bar up and down hills? That would be odd...

A handle tow would work perfectly for that. That’s it, a simple handle tow that probably would cost around 150k to buy and install and poof, you have the biggest skiing in the east.
 

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Does the Long Trail cross what would be the Sterling-Spruce connection? If so, that would also add to fire to keeping that away. Granted that far North the trail is only the Long and not part of the AT as well, but recall ASC had to propose and move the AT so it would not cross ski trails and lifts to please the AMC.

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You could absolutely run your removable Disneyland ride in reverse. That whole interconnect trail from the old big pig over to Sterling was flat as a pancake 90% of the way.

On the way to the Birthday Bowls, up by the fence, it gets reasonably steep. Even I'm wrong on that & you're right, in the Smuggs to Stowe direction it would probably be among the longest Magic Carpet rides in the world, and the winter maintenance would be a nightmare. But as I said, it's not even necessary.

Can you run a t-bar up and down hills? That would be odd...

You wouldnt have to. Just run it up to to the point where you can ski down. And a surface T-bars can be removable "winter only" structure as well. I'll say it again, people who think this "problem" is more difficult than sending a man to the moon havent really thought it through.

Right, or you could do something reasonable like the Italians do. Tow ‘em to the top of the notch and let ‘ em slide down the other side..... The tourons will eat that shit right up. Not every problem takes gobs of money to solve.

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Or this. I think EVERYONE would eat that up. Hell, I'd love to do that. Another unique marketing advantage conferred.
 

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I got the impression from reading the FAQ's and I believe reading on Mount Snow's social media pages yesterday responses from their communications crew, that if you want to go from a Peak pass to an Epic Pass product, that you'd be credited the cost of what you paid for your Peak pass towards the cost of an Epic product, at the rate it would of been had you bought the Epic product on the day you bought your Peak product, not the day the deal to buy Peak closes

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What about the other way? Peaks pass to Epic Military pass? I'd get r a refund!
 

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A handle tow would work perfectly for that. That’s it, a simple handle tow that probably would cost around 150k to buy and install and poof, you have the biggest skiing in the east.

And it's quickly & easily removable.

Does the Long Trail cross what would be the Sterling-Spruce connection?

With a removable seasonal connection, I dont see how that would be a complaint. Even if it is, you could end it just before that and people could ski across the Long Trail.
 

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I wish some non-Vail company would just buy Smuggs already so we can end this Stowe/Smuggs connection debate already :razz:
 

deadheadskier

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Pretty much the entire length of the ski route from Spruce to Sterling is the Long Trail.

Not seeing a seasonal removable lift being allowed on the Long Trail. So, you'd have the move the LT. But where? I don't see where you put a lift or ski terrain in that doesn't cross the Long Trail somewhere.

The Long Trail, Sterling Pond, state forest land with everyone's favorite bird habitat; all of these would be major hurdles to establish an interconnect at the summit. A tunnel is an interesting idea mentioned. That would probably be easier to get approved.

The horse idea is amusing, but might work and get approved easier than snowcat transit.

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With modern boring technology a tunnel might actually make financial sense.

Of course you would need a snowmaking system designed for a tunnel, which is a completely separate problem.
 

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In 2006 the Snowbird's 600 foot tunnel only cost $1.4 million. That's not bad at all - and it doesn't look like they used modern boring technology which may be cheaper.
 

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With modern boring technology a tunnel might actually make financial sense.

Of course you would need a snowmaking system designed for a tunnel, which is a completely separate problem.

That's actually not that big of a deal providing you have $, and if we're talking about boring a tunnel like this, you probably do
 

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The problem I see with having a Smuggs Stowe connection is the contingency planning needed if either the Sterling or Sensation lifts breakdown/close for wind in the middle of the day stranding hundreds possibly thousands of people at the wrong resort with no way to get back. Having to then shuttle everyone back via bus would take hours as the drive between the two resorts is about an hour long.
 

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In 2006 the Snowbird's 600 foot tunnel only cost $1.4 million. That's not bad at all - and it doesn't look like they used modern boring technology which may be cheaper.

Boring a tunnel underneath a lake is a risky proposition. Proposing such a project in Vermont would be close to tomfoolery.
 

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Lake? What lake?

Sterling POND, so yes not a lake but same issue.

Not sure what people are smoking here to get so deep into fantasy land. Personally I'd wait at least until Vail (or someone) owned BOTH resorts.
 

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Boring a tunnel underneath a lake is a risky proposition. Proposing such a project in Vermont would be close to tomfoolery.

A) You don't have to go under it.
B) There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of tunnels that go under bodies of water. It's not a problem, especially for something as insignificant as this pond.
 
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