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  1. #621
    Quote Originally Posted by machski View Post
    Umm, SR has on occasion opened TTB off Locke as well and once in Aurora. Doesn't happen often due to how early they try to open, but they almost always make an attempt if temps allow.

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    Yup - Worked there for 20+ years, so I can remember TTB on Right Stuff, and early season attempts on both Obsession and Northern Lights...

    Good ole days, before ASC when LBO was puttin in Lifts and opening up new terrain almost every year


  2. #622
    I'm a Cat homer. It's for sure overall my favorite skiing experience in the East.

    They do deliver longest season in New Hampshire, but it's really not by much.

    Look at their start and stop dates over the past 15 years. Scroll down through the website

    https://www.newenglandskihistory.com...wildcatmtn.php

    They basically get going around 11/20 most years and close around 4/25 over the past 15 years. They've only made May twice.

    When they do open with Lynx ttb, it's most definitely the best early season ski trail in the East. But it requires a crap load of man-made to accomplish.

    Honestly I think a better strategy would be to blow lower Catapult and run the Bobcat chair first. It would be a pain in the ass to walk up there, but the Cat hardcore's would. Quickly after blow open a cut over the Snowcat triple to have lift access near the lodge without hiking.

    Get those two going then expand up Middle Wildcat and Catapult towards the summit before kicking on the quad for the season.

    Get the Catapult ttb run going from the base upwards and then move on to filling in Lynx and Polecat

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  3. #623
    So back to Mount Snow...I got a copy of the Mount Snow magazine for 2019-2020. There's a whole article on Sunbrook enhancements. Little Dipper is now a beginner trail with snowmaking and has been widened. They also "moved" many trails within the Sunbrook complex. The "new" beginner Little Dipper runs from Little Dipper, to Big Dipper, onto Moonbeam. Lower Big Dipper is now Moonbeam. The article also had the GM saying how they want to get to 100% snowmaking within the not-so-distant future.

    Also a quick glimpse at the 2020 trail map did not have snowmaking on Fool's Gold over in Carinthia. Dr Jeff saw pipes with his own eyes so I'm thinking the map was rushed out to production (but it did have Little Dipper as a beginner trail).


    Not sure what to think about all this without a new lift over there still. Normally I'm all for terrain improvements over lift upgrades but the Sunbrook Quad has been "due" for replacement literally half its life now. I distinctly remember rumors in the 00s about a new lift over there and I believe the permit to replace it was granted in 2011 or 2012!!
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  4. #624
    Quote Originally Posted by ss20 View Post
    So back to Mount Snow...I got a copy of the Mount Snow magazine for 2019-2020. There's a whole article on Sunbrook enhancements. Little Dipper is now a beginner trail with snowmaking and has been widened. They also "moved" many trails within the Sunbrook complex. The "new" beginner Little Dipper runs from Little Dipper, to Big Dipper, onto Moonbeam. Lower Big Dipper is now Moonbeam. The article also had the GM saying how they want to get to 100% snowmaking within the not-so-distant future.
    Not thrilled at the flood of beginners this will bring to that side of the mountain. How is the beginner supposed to get over there, I don’t believe there are any green connector trails heading into Sunbrook ?

  5. #625
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    I'm a Cat homer. It's for sure overall my favorite skiing experience in the East.

    They do deliver longest season in New Hampshire, but it's really not by much.

    Look at their start and stop dates over the past 15 years. Scroll down through the website

    https://www.newenglandskihistory.com...wildcatmtn.php

    They basically get going around 11/20 most years and close around 4/25 over the past 15 years. They've only made May twice.

    When they do open with Lynx ttb, it's most definitely the best early season ski trail in the East. But it requires a crap load of man-made to accomplish.

    Honestly I think a better strategy would be to blow lower Catapult and run the Bobcat chair first. It would be a pain in the ass to walk up there, but the Cat hardcore's would. Quickly after blow open a cut over the Snowcat triple to have lift access near the lodge without hiking.

    Get those two going then expand up Middle Wildcat and Catapult towards the summit before kicking on the quad for the season.

    Get the Catapult ttb run going from the base upwards and then move on to filling in Lynx and Polecat

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    Best part was since we were all pass holders and the mt was open - It was FREE. No Lift rental, facilities charges.. Just the JOP & Bagpiper

  6. #626
    Quote Originally Posted by urungus View Post
    Not thrilled at the flood of beginners this will bring to that side of the mountain. How is the beginner supposed to get over there, I don’t believe there are any green connector trails heading into Sunbrook ?

    Hike over from the summit (its flat) . Little dipper starts at the top

  7. #627
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    The route they chose to turn Green has always been a green in reality. You can't even really move on it well with natural snow unless its groomed. It makes sense to reduce the difficulty to attract more people over there. Long John is a farce.

    They chose that route (to start) instead of Big Dipper because it can easily be accessed off the summit without a new Sunbrook chair. I wouldn't be surpised to see some tree removal behind the summit valve station to make the the route more apparent.

  8. #628
    Quote Originally Posted by urungus View Post
    Not thrilled at the flood of beginners this will bring to that side of the mountain. How is the beginner supposed to get over there, I don’t believe there are any green connector trails heading into Sunbrook ?
    Hang a right (or essentially almost go straight) at the top of Long John just past the summit pump house and you're heading into Sunbrook on a beginner trail that will take you directly to the top of where Little Dipper begins. From there on down via the new route, it's not much different pitch wise at any point that what beginner encounter on Snowdance or the section of Long John from the top of Carinthia on down to the bottom of the Sundance Triple.

    Would you want to take a first timer, on their first trip up to the Summit down that route? Probably not IMHO. Should a beginner who's made trip or 2 down Snowdance or Long John be able to handle the new route? Yup. The biggest "challenge" I would foresee for a beginner using that route is their chair ride out, as loading the Beartrap Double or the Sunbrook Quad might be a bit more challenging for them than any other lift they've ridden in their limited skiing career
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  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by ss20 View Post
    So back to Mount Snow...I got a copy of the Mount Snow magazine for 2019-2020. There's a whole article on Sunbrook enhancements. Little Dipper is now a beginner trail with snowmaking and has been widened. They also "moved" many trails within the Sunbrook complex. The "new" beginner Little Dipper runs from Little Dipper, to Big Dipper, onto Moonbeam. Lower Big Dipper is now Moonbeam. The article also had the GM saying how they want to get to 100% snowmaking within the not-so-distant future.

    Also a quick glimpse at the 2020 trail map did not have snowmaking on Fool's Gold over in Carinthia. Dr Jeff saw pipes with his own eyes so I'm thinking the map was rushed out to production (but it did have Little Dipper as a beginner trail).


    Not sure what to think about all this without a new lift over there still. Normally I'm all for terrain improvements over lift upgrades but the Sunbrook Quad has been "due" for replacement literally half its life now. I distinctly remember rumors in the 00s about a new lift over there and I believe the permit to replace it was granted in 2011 or 2012!!
    Here's the picture I took on Fool's Gold not too from from the top of the run from the top of the work road that cuts across Fool's Gold, Nitro, through the trees of Claimjumper and on over to Mineshaft.

    Unless they plan on not using those pipes this season, I think it was an omission in not mentioning Fools Gold in the Snowmaking expansion for this season IMG_20190830_093952875.jpg

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  10. #630
    I do hope they will now run Subrook Quad and Beartrap both midweek. I think that they will want to make this new green trail lappable without having to go all the way back down to the base via Beartap double and Long John. I also think the traffic that are will received, even on a random Tuesday in February, would be enough to justify running the quad.
    2018-2019 90 days and holding...
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    Killington: 11/16, 12/7, 12/9, 12/13, 12/20, 1/8, 1/9, 1/14, 1/23, 2/13, 3/1, 3/8, 3/22, 3/23, 3/24, 3/29, 3/30, 4/7, 4/20, 4/21, 5/4, 5/5
    Sugarbush: 12/8, 1/3, 1/17, 1/18, 4/6, 4/19 Mount Snow: 10/27, 11/21, 12/12
    Sunday River: 3/11, 3/12, 3/13
    Magic: 11/30, 1/11, 3/9 Jay Peak: 12/18, 1/15 Smuggler's Notch: 12/17 Sunapee: 12/19 Mad River Glen: 1/2 Mohawk: 1/4 Okemo: 1/7, 4/5 Pico: 1/10 Burke: 1/16 Belleayre: 2/1 Catamount: 2/6 Jiminy Peak: 2/12 Berkshire East: 3/6 Wildcat: 3/14 Bretton Woods: 3/15
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