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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    It amazes me how any new ski development is automatically labeled a boondoggle and a waste. This extension of DV for all intents and purposes is not the end of the world.
    I mean, as far as boondoggle's go, this is clearly pretty boondoggleley.

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    It doesn’t bother me one bit. I look at the Wasatch as a lost cause as far as “saving it” from the masses. This why I’m also for the One.
    ONE Wasatch needs to happen. I'm 100% convinced that the marketing advantage this would confer would be worth millions annually to the Utah economy.
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  2. #22
    But the impact on the back country!!!!


    the back country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by FBGM View Post
    Yay for low angle south east facing terrain
    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post

    Agree that it has bad exposure.
    The proposed map was shared on unofficial, and probably 50% is either due north to a north, northeast facing, which is actually a solid terrain direction. The other chunks are closer to a due east direction, but not much looks to be facing in a snow-consuming southerly direction.


    With the lower elevation, however, I'm guessing they're going to have to invest a decent bit in snowmaking or resolve to simply close this area earlier than neighboring areas. Tough to say from eyeballing maps, but I'm guessing about 6,600 to about 7,600 is how they're arriving at 1,000 feet in vertical.
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  4. #24
    Seems like the business strategy is as follows. Under the premise that there just isn't a ton more undeveloped slope side land available through Deer Valley anymore, and yet there's still decent demand for properties, bot new and resale at Deer Valley, let alone across the entire Park City resorts area.

    Develop more ski terrain adjacent to Deer Valley, and then hope say Alterra comes in and buys the ski resort part once it's up and running, and then either keep, or sell off the home sight development rights to a buyer, or just keep on selling lots to buyers yourself.

    Many, many people who buy and own at Deer Valley, enjoy the sport for sure, but don't need extreme terrain or the desire to ski 7 days a week themselves, but would rather ski on the "good" days and then have a place that is enticing enough to get their family and/or friends out to stay with them and enjoy their home and the region
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenedictGomez View Post
    The proposed map was shared on unofficial, and probably 50% is either due north to a north, northeast facing, which is actually a solid terrain direction. The other chunks are closer to a due east direction, but not much looks to be facing in a snow-consuming southerly direction.


    With the lower elevation, however, I'm guessing they're going to have to invest a decent bit in snowmaking or resolve to simply close this area earlier than neighboring areas. Tough to say from eyeballing maps, but I'm guessing about 6,600 to about 7,600 is how they're arriving at 1,000 feet in vertical.
    Yeah itís the elevation that seems to be the issue. For some reason that side really lacks snow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drjeff View Post
    Seems like the business strategy is as follows. Under the premise that there just isn't a ton more undeveloped slope side land available through Deer Valley anymore, and yet there's still decent demand for properties, bot new and resale at Deer Valley, let alone across the entire Park City resorts area.

    Develop more ski terrain adjacent to Deer Valley, and then hope say Alterra comes in and buys the ski resort part once it's up and running, and then either keep, or sell off the home sight development rights to a buyer, or just keep on selling lots to buyers yourself.

    Many, many people who buy and own at Deer Valley, enjoy the sport for sure, but don't need extreme terrain or the desire to ski 7 days a week themselves, but would rather ski on the "good" days and then have a place that is enticing enough to get their family and/or friends out to stay with them and enjoy their home and the region
    FYI itís been reported that DV has a lease with these folks. Itís not clear who is playing what role.


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    The whole access to DV combined with military benefits is kind of odd. Thereís gotta be a huge tax break there or something for the developers

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    The whole access to DV combined with military benefits is kind of odd. There’s gotta be a huge tax break there or something for the developers
    I'm pretty sure that's the straw that stirs the drink. It seems to be a bizarre, old, long-open ski real estate loophole whereby cheap skiing essentially "needed" to be offered somewhere to our troops. In other words, and I could be 100% incorrect on this, but it seems from reading-between-the-lines that if not for this odd military/ski thing, I don't think this new development could have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    FYI it’s been reported that DV has a lease with these folks. It’s not clear who is playing what role.


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    The developer owns land that part of the sultan and mayflower lifts are on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raisingarizona View Post
    The whole access to DV combined with military benefits is kind of odd. There’s gotta be a huge tax break there or something for the developers
    Bingo. Again, this started out as a landswap for the Hill AFB personnel who lost a very rustic mountain cabin and has somehow mushroomed into a $1 billion project that can be fasttracked. The only obligation on the developers is to provide military folks a discount. What I have seen and read is a very modest discount at best.
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