Loan approved. Closing by the end of the week.
https://www.boston.com/news/skiing/2020/01/27/heres-the-latest-on-saddleback-mountain-in-maine
Good news. Fingers and toes crossed for Saddleback folks. They've had to endure a lot of pain.
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Loan approved. Closing by the end of the week.
https://www.boston.com/news/skiing/2020/01/27/heres-the-latest-on-saddleback-mountain-in-maine
Good luck to them. I'll try to support them by getting up the first season they open (and hopefully many more).
Now, if someone could just win the Powerball, and hand them the Barnstormer 6. :grin:
This is THE infrastructure question from a skiing perspective in my book. Is a fixed quad enough, will a detachable lift be too expensive, or will either/neither work?If they replace the Rangely with a fixed quad, nobody is gonna want to go there in the numbers they'll need to succeed. The manufacturers already saying they want to get away from building quads and smaller chairs. Might as well do something to create the desire to visit, that will put bodies on the chairs and slopes.
If they replace the Rangely with a fixed quad, nobody is gonna want to go there in the numbers they'll need to succeed. The manufacturers already saying they want to get away from building quads and smaller chairs. Might as well do something to create the desire to visit, that will put bodies on the chairs and slopes.
Per NE ski history, here are the lifts since 2010 that are roughly the length of the Rangeley chair:The Rangeley Double is 4717 feet length/1177 feet vertical. A FGQ would be a fine replacement for the current lift and handle most crowds. However, are you going to convince the masses to show up in the middle of nowhere for a FGQ? If they want to try and survive they need the marketing effect of a HSQ. Magic's location allows them to skip the HSQ and draw visitors.
https://skimap.org/data/446/7/1257035266.pdf
What T Bar?My vote would be a fixed grip chair as low to the ground as possible (windproof). Pretty important unless you want big lines on the T-bar.
There were plans to replace the existing t bar at one point.What T Bar?
The remaining one is dead from what I've heard. And that T Bar only served like only 600 vertical of uninspiring terrain.
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The Rangley chair is about 5000' long, so in my book is right at the boarder line of when a Detach vs FG chair becomes highly relevant. If it was twice the cost of acquisition of a FG only (IE operational costs were the same) then yes, you would go detach. But since operational costs are at least double that of a FG, not sure you can justify that difference right now at Saddleback. I personally think a FG (toss the carpet on for that slight speed bump perhaps) is logical for them right now. They might skip the carpet, especially if they are installing it with the potential possibility of moving it for a Detach in say 7-10 years down the road. In any event, it is returning from dormancy and I don't think a HSQ would attract enough new and sustained business to be cost effective. Would something like Barnstormer? Maybe, but for me being an expect level skier and just wanting access to Kennebago Chair, I just need a reliable out of base chair. I wouldn't be lapping whatever goes in for Rangley much.
Edit: Rangley is only 4550, doesn't need to be detach. Basically a 9 minute ride FG.
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The Rangeley Double is 4717 feet length/1177 feet vertical. A FGQ would be a fine replacement for the current lift and handle most crowds. However, are you going to convince the masses to show up in the middle of nowhere for a FGQ? If they want to try and survive they need the marketing effect of a HSQ. Magic's location allows them to skip the HSQ and draw visitors.
https://skimap.org/data/446/7/1257035266.pdf
What T Bar?
The remaining one is dead from what I've heard. And that T Bar only served like 600 vertical of uninspiring terrain.
Per NE ski history, here are the lifts since 2010 that are roughly the length of the Rangeley chair:
Fixed grip:
Magic quad (used) - ~5000 feet
Spruce triple (one-for-one replacement) - 4400 feet
Green peak (relocated) - 4400 feet
Mittersill double (required to be a double?) - 4000 feet
Shawnee peak triple (used) - ~4100 feet
Detachable:
Stratton Snow Bowl - 4600 feet
Snowdon six - 4400 feet
Barnstormer six - 5450 feet
Sun bowl (relocated) - 4300 feet
All the fixed grips over 4000 feet were built under extenuating circumstances.
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