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  1. #11
    Not on map, but I'd put Ossipee chute at Wildcat up there with anything I've skied in the East. Steep as hell, very tight in spots, 8-10 footer with a sketchy landing. You can take your skis off and hike around it, but there's no way to ski around it. I've probably skied it ten times and only had the balls for the drop twice when the base was deep and plenty of fresh on top. Even without the drop, I haven't skied it in a couple of seasons. I haven't been in good enough shape the past couple of seasons to trust my skills in there.

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  2. #12
    Don't laugh, but the toughest time I've ever had getting down an on map glade is one of the ones off the summit at Sunapee. Coverage was awful and the terrain was surprisingly steep and tight. Shock to the system considering the mountain you're on.

    I've skied Kinsman quite a few times and didn't find it overly difficult. The first time I skied it I expected it to be like tramline with trees but it's surprisingly friendly in comparison. Very long with no bailouts though so don't commit until you know you're ready to ski it. Ultimately it's really up to the coverage. Good snow makes tough glades easier than easy glades with terrible snow. I love Julio at Killington, but oftentimes the hardest part of the entire run is navigating the skating rink that Flume usually turns into. Paradise at MRG is another good one, but I first skied it like 6 years ago so I never went down it when I would've considered it over my head. Everglade, Staircase, Vertigo, etc at Jay are steep and tight but the snow is usually so good up there that they're easier to ski than if the same trails were at Cannon or something.
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  3. #13
    Upon further reflection, if I had to pick a single on-the-map glade, I would go with Paradise at MRG. It's usually pretty icy and there's the frozen waterfall at the top. And it's steep and stays open for a good part of the season. So if I had to pick one toughest on-the-map glade, that would be it.

    No comments on off-the-map stuff.

  4. #14
    Of my experience I'd say any of the chutes off of the jay tran take the cake for being the most extreme/challenging but I do have to give a mention to the Plunge at mount snow which is next to Ripcord. Short run but has multiple cliffs and is probably steeper than the cut trail itself. Those glades need to be trimmed again though... Do AZ'ers have a name for those annoying whip plants you get at lower elevations?


  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryIsaacs View Post
    Of my experience I'd say any of the chutes off of the jay tran take the cake for being the most extreme/challenging but I do have to give a mention to the Plunge at mount snow which is next to Ripcord. Short run but has multiple cliffs and is probably steeper than the cut trail itself. Those glades need to be trimmed again though... Do AZ'ers have a name for those annoying whip plants you get at lower elevations?
    All the times ive been to mount snow and I never knew that existed till you just mentioned it. If I ever ski there again I'll,have to check it out
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  6. #16
    Is this glade skiers right near the top, drops down around the backside somewhat and comes into the lower glades the furthest to skiers right on the map?
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    Not on map, but I'd put Ossipee chute at Wildcat up there with anything I've skied in the East. Steep as hell, very tight in spots, 8-10 footer with a sketchy landing. You can take your skis off and hike around it, but there's no way to ski around it. I've probably skied it ten times and only had the balls for the drop twice when the base was deep and plenty of fresh on top. Even without the drop, I haven't skied it in a couple of seasons. I haven't been in good enough shape the past couple of seasons to trust my skills in there.

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  7. #17
    Devil's Den at Killington gets my vote. It's a crazy 5-15 foot wide skiable "chute" with impenetrable brush on either side. Air is not mandatory but it's available. I don't think patrol has opened it (the top part) in the past couple of years.

    The trees to the left of Sugarbush Paradise are probably harder but I don't venture too deep in there knowing I could get myself in big trouble really quickly.


    Really though this is all relative to what you think makes a "challenging" glade. For me, the challenge goes up as I have less and less options. That's why Devil's Den gets my vote- once you're in there are many spots where you have two routes down to point your skis and that's it. The reality is in many tree skiing areas unless you get "cliffed out" you can navigate down as long as you've got snow...unconnected turns, sideslipping, traversing.
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  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by ss20 View Post
    Devil's Den at Killington gets my vote. It's a crazy 5-15 foot wide skiable "chute" with impenetrable brush on either side. Air is not mandatory but it's available. I don't think patrol has opened it (the top part) in the past couple of years.

    The trees to the left of Sugarbush Paradise are probably harder but I don't venture too deep in there knowing I could get myself in big trouble really quickly.


    Really though this is all relative to what you think makes a "challenging" glade. For me, the challenge goes up as I have less and less options. That's why Devil's Den gets my vote- once you're in there are many spots where you have two routes down to point your skis and that's it. The reality is in many tree skiing areas unless you get "cliffed out" you can navigate down as long as you've got snow...unconnected turns, sideslipping, traversing.
    Devils Den is probably my 2nd favorite trail at Killington after Julio but I thought Centerpiece (which I skied the same day as Devils Den) was a little more challenging. Maybe it was the line I took. In any event, the woods off Paradise at Sugarbush are steeper and in some areas tighter than anything on the map at Killington.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryIsaacs View Post
    Of my experience I'd say any of the chutes off of the jay tran take the cake for being the most extreme/challenging but I do have to give a mention to the Plunge at mount snow which is next to Ripcord. Short run but has multiple cliffs and is probably steeper than the cut trail itself. Those glades need to be trimmed again though... Do AZ'ers have a name for those annoying whip plants you get at lower elevations?
    I have to agree with you on the chutes off the top at Jay. The face chutes were closed the days I was up there but I did get a chance to ski tuckermans chute and it's one of the most challenging runs that I've ever been on. I'm not sure though that I'd consider it a glade trail. It does have trees in the way but there is open terrain on it as well.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by p_levert View Post
    Upon further reflection, if I had to pick a single on-the-map glade, I would go with Paradise at MRG. It's usually pretty icy and there's the frozen waterfall at the top. And it's steep and stays open for a good part of the season. So if I had to pick one toughest on-the-map glade, that would be it.

    No comments on off-the-map stuff.
    I haven't been on Paradise at MRG yet (I plan on skiing MRG for the 1st time this year) but the videos I've seen make it look like the trail has quite a bit of open terrain with some trees in the way so I'm not sure that Paradise would be considered a glade trail. A colleague of mine skied it a number of times this year and said that the trees to the skiers left of the trail were much more challenging than the actual trail itself.

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