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  1. #61
    Temperature of snow making water a factor too.

    Which changes slower, than ground temp.

    G.N.A.R.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Zand View Post
    Yes...Downdraft Headwall is the steep, often frozen solid section that drops off the peak lodge to High Traverse. "Upper" Downdraft shouldn't count as a separate trail as its only a few hundred more feet down to Great Northern and rather uninteresting.

    This is the best time of the season to ski the Headwall until soft spring days. After it gets rained on once, bring your ice skates.

    For the record, Killington splits Downdraft, which really isnt very long, into 4 sections lol.
    The section from High Traverse to GN is where they hold Loaded Rail Turkey Jam (Or whatever its called) and they break that out as a separate segment. All 4 segments open and close independently as weather and conditions dictate. Lower gets snowmaking last. The headwall closes frequently. So it actually is handy to know which segments are open, like the 3 on Superstar. Counting that as 4 trails though is embarrassing.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by mister moose View Post
    The section from High Traverse to GN is where they hold Loaded Rail Turkey Jam (Or whatever its called) and they break that out as a separate segment. All 4 segments open and close independently as weather and conditions dictate. Lower gets snowmaking last. The headwall closes frequently. So it actually is handy to know which segments are open, like the 3 on Superstar. Counting that as 4 trails though is embarrassing.
    Pretty much why I miss their Interactive Trail Map. Especially early season when all these little bits are opening up one at a time, it's hard to envision how much actual skiable terrain there is.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by mister moose View Post
    The section from High Traverse to GN is where they hold Loaded Rail Turkey Jam (Or whatever its called) and they break that out as a separate segment. All 4 segments open and close independently as weather and conditions dictate. Lower gets snowmaking last. The headwall closes frequently. So it actually is handy to know which segments are open, like the 3 on Superstar. Counting that as 4 trails though is embarrassing.
    +1 on that.

    I thought it was incredibly silly how many named segments Sunday River had during some of the "add trail count without cutting trees" years until I worked patrol elsewhere for a couple of years. Having shorter named segments can be super-helpful in trying to locate a reported incident (assuming, of course, that the reporter actually knows where said incident occurred), as well as for calling for additional help.

    So yes, it would be nice if there were separate "run" vs "trail" stats—e.g. "three top-to-bottom runs, 12 trails open"—but there are operational reasons beyond trail-count numbers to split things up into shorter sections. I also think it would be more informative to report new snow as "dusting", "buckles", "mid-boot", "mid-shin", or "too deep, just stay home and leave it to us", as accurate snow reporting is damn near impossible once wind enters the picture, but then we'd probably see a bunch of really short people get hired as snow reporters.
    Disclaimer: Unless otherwise noted, I speak only for myself, unless I'm saying something incredibly dumb, in which case I didn't say anything and you're hallucinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    Those issues yes, plus the insane traffic too and from the resort that the added pass base has caused.

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    I don't believe that day pass prices are affecting the outcome of the ski mag survey. I highly doubt that a large percentage of voters on a skiing specific website are paying daily lift ticket window rates. I will say that the overall hatred of Vail Resorts most likely had something to do with it (whether realized or not). I agree 100 percent DH, that the traffic and parking issue has created some ill feelings towards Stowe (three Saturdays this past season they ran out of parking completely and turned people away). Their health and safety program might also have a lot to do with it. It might be me, but last year seem to have a rather high amount of lift closures. And don't forget their worthless snow reports. It took a lot of complaining just to get Scott to start doing the snow phone reports again.

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    The only way to deal with Stowe parking is to get there very early..which I know id hard for those with kids. Their snow reporting is a joke. I have never heard a good thing said by anyone up there about Vail. But..they really haven't done anything yet..
    Lets go!
    I'll drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslug View Post
    The only way to deal with Stowe parking is to get there very early..which I know id hard for those with kids. Their snow reporting is a joke. I have never heard a good thing said by anyone up there about Vail. But..they really haven't done anything yet..
    So true, I can't even remember the last time that I had to park anywhere but in front of the Mansfield lodge.

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    7:30 chair is the best..before the hordes arrive
    Lets go!
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    Looks like now until Sunday is the time to get up to K..Best early turns.
    Lets go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslug View Post
    Looks like now until Sunday is the time to get up to K..Best early turns.
    Maybe? Mount Snow will have Freefall open Wednesday on the North Face. If they leave it ungroomed whales like 2 years ago, that will be the best open terrain and it's over 1000 vert. If they groom it, not so much.

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