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  1. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Yea...sure is comforting to know that only 1 out of every 100 people I know that have no pre-existing conditions would die if they get COVID-19.

    Also a somewhat interesting article about research into the impact of a recession on death rates (as opposed to numbers you used that were thrown out by a movie)...
    https://drexel.edu/now/archive/2014/...loyment-Study/
    1 out of 100 people don't die.
    break down the stats

    1 out of 100 people will catch it. Out of the 1 out of 100, 80% will have light to no systems at all. 15% have moderate symptoms have moderate sysmptoms and may need to be hospitalized. 5% are severe, and need ventilators. United states is averaging a 1.3% mortality rate. It's higher in Washington because it went thru a lot of Nursing homes.


  2. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by skiur View Post
    Wait, is that what this thread was about? I doubt it too but still holding out some hope for may turns on superstar.

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by nhskier1969 View Post
    1 out of 100 people don't die.
    break down the stats
    Maybe re-read my comment. I didn't say 1 out of 100 people will die. I said 1 out of every 100 people that GET it will die.

  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Maybe re-read my comment. I didn't say 1 out of 100 people will die. I said 1 out of every 100 people that GET it will die.
    Not quite correct, since we've only been testing people with symptons. So you should say 1 out of 100 people that get it *and* are symptomatic will die.

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by p_levert View Post
    Not quite correct, since we've only been testing people with symptons. So you should say 1 out of 100 people that get it *and* are symptomatic will die.
    Well I was responding specifically to someone that pointed to data showing the death rate was "only" .9 among people with no pre-existing conditions and the fact that they said that number was "comforting" to them. So my response of course is going to respond to the number they cited in the link to the data they mentioned.

    You're absolutely right that it "could" be lower. It also "could" be higher if we overload the healthcare system by "opening things up" too quickly as some people on this forum seem to be in favor of doing. The US has one of the lowest death rates at the moment compared to many other countries. I'd prefer to see it stay that way until we better understand things and are better prepared to deal with it.

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Yea...sure is comforting to know that only 1 out of every 100 people I know that have no pre-existing conditions would die if they get COVID-19.

    Also a somewhat interesting article about research into the impact of a recession on death rates (as opposed to numbers you used that were thrown out by a movie)...
    https://drexel.edu/now/archive/2014/...loyment-Study/
    congrats cdskier for finding the 1 article that contradicts numerous studies showing higher unemployment causing an increased death rate :

    https://news.yale.edu/2002/05/23/ris...searcher-shows

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448606/

    https://www.genre.com/knowledge/blog...y-rate-en.html

    https://www.livescience.com/13578-un...mortality.html

  7. #77
    Regardless of the stats, the real concern I have is people dying because we don't have the equipment to save them like we normally would.

    I started my day with a very sobering conversation with the Director of Nursing of a hospital in VT. If the rate of infection in NYC hits VT, within 3 weeks the hospital will have to switch to a policy of no ventilators for patients over age 60. These heroes are very well used to DNR situations and see sad endings of life every day, but it's pretty much unprecedented they have to make the DNR choice for their patients and loved ones because they lack the resources to treat.

    That's not media fear mongering. It's legitimate fear of the providers on the front lines. Let's hope it doesn't get that bad.

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  8. #78
    Is the rate of infection in a highly populated, highly dense city likely to occur in a highly rural state?

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by icecoast1 View Post
    Is the rate of infection in a highly populated, highly dense city likely to occur in a highly rural state?
    If VT didn't take the extreme measures they have maybe. I mean just look at what happened in Boston because of one small conference for Biogen. VT extended school cancellation for the year today as a precaution. The reality is that maybe 5 of the 15 hospitals in the state have the ICU capability of treating a serious Covid-19 patient. Outside of UVM Med Center the capacity of the others is maybe 2-5 patients each for those 4. UVM capacity might be 30 patients. It's not just a lack of Vents, it's a lack of negative pressure isolation rooms. I'd be surprised if the latter exceeded 50 patient rooms for the entire state. That's not a lot to serve a population of 600k people.

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  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    Regardless of the stats, the real concern I have is people dying because we don't have the equipment to save them like we normally would.

    I started my day with a very sobering conversation with the Director of Nursing of a hospital in VT. If the rate of infection in NYC hits VT, within 3 weeks the hospital will have to switch to a policy of no ventilators for patients over age 60. These heroes are very well used to DNR situations and see sad endings of life every day, but it's pretty much unprecedented they have to make the DNR choice for their patients and loved ones because they lack the resources to treat.

    That's not media fear mongering. It's legitimate fear of the providers on the front lines. Let's hope it doesn't get that bad.

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    With elective surgeries on hold will this make a viable dent in the deficit?

    https://poststar.com/news/local/loca...8e9bb4b33.html

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