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  1. #11
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    I believe hikers should be respectful of one another. Many people would be offended for a variety of different reasons, so it would be direspectful and a selfish act to hike in the nude.


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    Nude hiking? Ouch..

    What about all those branches and sticks you know, snagging things. And then there's all those blowdowns you got to stretch over...

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    Re: Nude hiking? Ouch..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose
    What about all those branches and sticks you know, snagging things. And then there's all those blowdowns you got to stretch over...
    LOL! Oh man, too funny.

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    The fact that this subject comes up regularly as well as the fact that mainstream outdoors magazines cover the topic on a regular basis are the most telling statements as to our desire to be nude outdoors. Has anyone not seen Nike's current ad campaign ... "You are naked...blah,blah,blah, Go." The AT has a nude hiking day (first day of summer) and this thread has been viewed far more than any other.

    The fact of the matter is that nude outdoor recreation is cool. The arguments against doing it are interesting and some are valid, but people just like being naked and always will.

    Yet some will argue vehemently against outdoors nudity. The two most common misconceptions that people make in arguing against nude hiking are:
    1- That somehow being naked outdoors is akin to sexual aggression: and
    2- That people who like to be nude outside are basically exhibitionists.

    I can't speak for anyone but myself. I'm not into nude beaches and am generally pretty shy. To be honest, I wish I had the guts to hike nude more often than I actually do (which is once or twice a year out of at least 20 annual hikes). I generally hike solo and will only strip down on remote trails where I'm all but 100-percent certain I won't run into anyone else. After a while you forget your nudity - which is great. There's nothing exhibitionist or aggressive about it. It's unfortunate that our society is often unable to disconnect nudity from sex.

    Has anyone out there run into a nude hiker in a heavily travelled area like Marcy Dam or the Presidentials? I doubt it, because in such circumstances your own nudity would certainly become a distraction to not only everyone else, but yourself as well.

    If you are alone or with like-minded people in remote areas, I say go for it. It's not illegal unless there's someone to complain about it. In my opinion, there's no better way to commune with nature than to be natural yourself.

    Happy hiking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pancho
    I believe hikers should be respectful of one another. Many people would be offended for a variety of different reasons, so it would be direspectful and a selfish act to hike in the nude.
    the above quote sums up my thoughts precisely.

    Nude dude, the reason this post has more views than any other is two fold: A: the topic has had more replies than almost all other topics, so it keeps getting bumped. people will generally re-view a topic once it's been replied to obviously. the other reason is the topic is sure to stir up people's opinions pro and con (more con i would imagine) and people like to view stuff they are extremely in favor or opposed to. you don't generally read posts that have nothing to do with you unless you are an obsessive compulsive forum reader such as myself

    next, subject at hand: for better or for worse, 99% of people in society have ingrained social moores and norms. it's part of people, it's part of society. when you go against certain social values, people get a little upset. if you really want to piss people off or upset them, i say feel free. unfortunately, our society is full of people that act without concern for how other people feel. Nude dude, you seem very respectful of other people in avoiding people while hiking nude, more power to you.

    NOW, whether society's views of nudity are right or wrong really is a non-issue. the fact is that hikers in the whites would mostly be upset and not happy to see a nude hiker cross their paths. i would consider it disdracting and unwelcome (and i realize that's more society talking through me, but sorry, that's the way it is). some women might even be traumatized and deeply offended by nude male hikers (brings to mind the guy in the trench coat flashing people on the street). again, i'm sure 99% of nude hikers are hiking their own hike and are not the proverbial sick and twisted 'fat man in a little coat.' it doesn't diminish the fact of other people's perceptions and reactions. regardless of how you feel and think, you really should consider someone else's 'perception.' perception is key in our society.
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    I agree with you completely. The point of my post essentially was that I think we're talking about an activity that is more common than some might think. I've been hiking throughout the Northeast extensively for nearly a decade and the list of mountains I've climbed is pretty impressive. In that time, I've NEVER seen a nude hiker and I've never been seen while hiking nude myself. Part of the reason for this is that there is much more solitude to be found in the hills of the Northeast than many weekend White Mountain warriors are willing to give credit for - so there's plenty of opportunity to hike nude without having to worry about offending.

    As a weekday hiker (I do have a job, I just have odd days off), I would estimate that about a third of the time I will not see another soul all day. When you pull into a remote trailhead with no other cars in the lot and no one has signed through the register in three days, the question I usually ask myself is "Why not?" So I do - weather permitting. My most recent hike was in the nude. The hike out is always in full garb.

    Anyway, I'm a pretty normal well-adjusted guy and I completely respect a parent's right to decide when and where they expose their kids to what. Only a jerk would go parading around Lonesome Lake campground in the buff. I also happen to think that more than a few of the 888 people who have viewed this thread share my opinion.

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    Many, many years ago (1963, I think) I attended an "Indian" camp run by Quakers in Vermont. The owners, Ken Webb (?) and his wife were in their late 60's I'd guess and were naturists. We campers spent the summer in either breechclouts or nothing and I became accustomed to being nude outdoors. To this day, I prefer to swim naked and given the choice, I do so. I would hesitate to hike naked in the East, however. I'm told that Ken Webb and his wife did and they must have surprised folks who encountered them but that was long ago when hikers were few.
    Out west is another matter. If one hikes out for a few days, beyond day hikers. boy scout groups and whathaveyou , then who's to complain, other than startled elk? It's a nice feeling of freedom (above the timberline, no need to worry about bugs, deadfalls, etc) and one I wish I could enjoy more often. All that said, I keep my shorts on here in the east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nude dude
    It's not illegal unless there's someone to complain about it.
    I don't buy this rationale. Say someone is assaulted, and the victim doesn't report it, has the perpetrator done anything illegal? Of course they have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nude dude
    In that time, I've NEVER seen a nude hiker and I've never been seen while hiking nude myself. Part of the reason for this is that there is much more solitude to be found in the hills of the Northeast than many weekend White Mountain warriors are willing to give credit for - so there's plenty of opportunity to hike nude without having to worry about offending.

    As a weekday hiker (I do have a job, I just have odd days off), I would estimate that about a third of the time I will not see another soul all day. When you pull into a remote trailhead with no other cars in the lot and no one has signed through the register in three days, the question I usually ask myself is "Why not?" So I do - weather permitting.
    Quote Originally Posted by happytrails
    If one hikes out for a few days, beyond day hikers. boy scout groups and whathaveyou , then who's to complain, other than startled elk?
    Yeah, but how are you so positive you won't see anybody? My feeling is nude hiking is totally irresponsible.

    And I can speak from experience as I have come across a naked guy while hiking. And it wasn't on some secluded trail in the Whites, it was on an open ledge in a small state park in Connecticut! It didn't bother me much, but my wife was with me and I didn't want her to be offended. I was a bit ahead of her on the trail and ran back to her to warn her. She didn't believe me until she saw for herself.

    We actually joke about it, and call the area "Naked Man Hill". She did indicate she was glad I was with her though and she would now never hike there alone. That's a shame that her comfort level has been compromised because someone felt the need to be irresponsible.

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    Although I don't advocate nude hiking, nor would I personally want to, I did accidentally encounter a naked Croo at the Lonesome Lake Hut on Saturday.

    I was taking a shortcut from the bathroom to the AT trail just above the hut when I happened upon a naked Male (damn) Cross just about to enter the shower. I apologized for startlingly him, and then proceeded to hike up the trail. He didn't seem to mind; so I guess if you take a shower at the Lonesome Lake hut, expect visitors.

  10. #20
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    Greg -

    Based on the tone of your post, it would be real easy to get involved in a war of personal nasitiness. But the philosophical merits of this discussion are much more interesting to me than a prospective personality conflict.

    Let me start with this: In a democratic society, the rights of the minority are at least as important as the will of the majority. if not more so.

    In other words: Despite the fact that I feel it's my God-given right to be naked when and where I please, I accept the fact that society does not feel this way. Consequently, I adjust my behavior accordingly in spite of the fact that society chose me and not vice-versa. (I didn't choose society and don't really have the option of rejecting it without rejecting all the worthwhile people within it as well.) What you need to do, my friend, is expand your mind and realize that what I do in the seclusion of the uninhabited woods is none of your concern so long as it doesn't affect you. This is the right of a free man exercising free will.

    Also, your assault analogy rings hollow. In my example, there was no victim; in yours, there was.

    Peace.

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