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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Just for information gathering purposes, when do you need to lockout a shock? On a climb? How easy is it to do so?
    Well, the necessity of a lockout will be argued by everyone, and will depend a lot on how efficient your particular suspension design is.



    I find them especially helpful on long climbs and long flat, non technical straights and asphalt when you don't need the absorption and you want all your pedaling input energy to translate into drive power rather than going towards compressing the suspension with every pedals stroke.
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Just for information gathering purposes, when do you need to lockout a shock? On a climb? How easy is it to do so?
    I lock the shock out when I am running the road. In particular when I am going up hill on the road.

    Climbing in the woods with a FS is actually better when it is steep and bumpy. When you pump hard the rear wheel gets sucked under your ass more giving you more traction for the climb. At least that is whe I experience.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Well, the necessity of a lockout will be argued by everyone, and will depend a lot on how efficient your particular suspension design is.

    I find them especially helpful on long climbs and long flat, non technical straights and asphalt when you don't need the absorption and you want all your pedaling input energy to translate into drive power rather than going towards compressing the suspension with every pedals stroke.

    I prefer a rear shock with pedal platform (SPV or ProPedal) over a lockout. I think lockouts are useless. I also prefer good old high single pivot rear suspensions due to the simple nature and I love the way the rear end digs in when climbing. If I had all the cash in the world I would be ruding a tricked out Santa Cruz Heckler. But I also wouldn't say no to a Giant Reighn with the Maestro suspension design

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by tjf67 View Post
    I lock the shock out when I am running the road. In particular when I am going up hill on the road.

    Climbing in the woods with a FS is actually better when it is steep and bumpy. When you pump hard the rear wheel gets sucked under your ass more giving you more traction for the climb. At least that is whe I experience.
    Losing or gaining traction with pedal input depends on the suspension design. It can go either way depending on the geometry, as Tim touches on below-

    Quote Originally Posted by MR. evil View Post
    I prefer a rear shock with pedal platform (SPV or ProPedal) over a lockout. I think lockouts are useless. I also prefer good old high single pivot rear suspensions due to the simple nature and I love the way the rear end digs in when climbing. If I had all the cash in the world I would be ruding a tricked out Santa Cruz Heckler. But I also wouldn't say no to a Giant Reighn with the Maestro suspension design
    The Heckler is on the short list of potential new frames for me. Downside is I'd probably need a longer travel heavier fork. Also, I can tell you from several years of riding up Killington on the gravel work roads, lockout is particularly not useless to me.

    If I had all the money in the world, I'd be on an Ellsworth Epiphany (maybe a Moment) or an Ibis Mojo.
    Making sanity obsolete since 1982...

  5. #45
    Santa Crux Bullit... That's my recommendation, but it is most likely out of your price range. I know people who use them on climbs as well as people who use them for downhill. As mentioned by someone else, I too would rather have something with pro-pedal or spv or just a good suspension over lock-out (but of course that fits my riding style).

  6. #46
    Also, high pivot designs, while they do aid in traction on a climb, also tend to have the opposite than desired effect when pedaling over bumps, as the force the rider exerts on the frame is opposing the force exterted by the bump. I've heard this called "lockout" or "dead travel" while pedaling.
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  7. #47
    all mountain xammy is your bike - very close to price point, and i bet you could shop around and find a leftover '07 under or at $1500

    http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...dakarxam1.html

    i have an '07 and it climbs great, '08 should be even better with the dhx 4.0 propedal

    also check out a giant trance
    "that feeling: hovering in a weightless space with honey on the tip of your tongue and pure red blood gorging your heart, soaring on a current of angelic music cutting clear mountain air." -norman ollestad, crazy for the storm

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by gorgonzola View Post
    all mountain xammy is your bike - very close to price point

    http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...dakarxam1.html

    i have an '07 and it climbs great, '08 should be even better with the dhx 4.0 propedal

    also check out a giant trance
    That bike has a little too much travel IMO to be a good climbing bike. 130mm (5") is the most I would go if you want a bike that will climb good and that bike has 150mm. But this is also a subjective thing. My bike has 130mm in the front and rear and on steep technical climbs I have to really work to keep the front end from wandering. The bigger issues with that bike is the suspension package. There have been alot of complaints online this year about Marzzochi forks, and the Fox DHX air shocks have also been getting a bad rap. I know someone that has blown several DHX5 Air (better than the DHX4) this year alone. But at your weight Austin I doubt you would blow out the rear.But the Maazzochi fork concearns me. The bike is also $700 over your budget

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by andyzee View Post
    haha

  10. #50
    you may want to check your setup on your fork if you have adj rebound and/or compression. can't really speak about the marz forks but i've heard about the problems with the dhx shock - i'm running the dhx3 and know others as well and haven't heard about any problems first hand, my arse is about 210# these days hitting 2' max drops. btw 5 doesn't mean "better" , same basic shock with more features - 3 is stripped, 4 has propedal, 5 has propedal and lockout
    "that feeling: hovering in a weightless space with honey on the tip of your tongue and pure red blood gorging your heart, soaring on a current of angelic music cutting clear mountain air." -norman ollestad, crazy for the storm

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