The Golf Thread

Philpug · Aug 24, 2008

Was going to play today at the Nevele, but the rates are 40% less tomorrow, playing in the AM then bike ride in the aftgernoon.

drjeff · Aug 25, 2008

Playing Lake of Isles (the PHENOMENAL course at Foxwoods) with my parents tommorrow. With the travel schedule my parents have the between now and Thanksgiving, this is going to be the last round in New England I'll get with my Dad this year, so we figured why not play a real kick a$$ course!

Warp Daddy · Aug 25, 2008

drjeff said:
Playing Lake of Isles (the PHENOMENAL course at Foxwoods) with my parents tommorrow. With the travel schedule my parents have the between now and Thanksgiving, this is going to be the last round in New England I'll get with my Dad this year, so we figured why not play a real kick a$$ course!

Damn that looks good doc -- make sure your "strategy mojo" is working

-- looks like some strategic layups may be in order ---------------------- BUT hell then again it's fun to grip and rip --- have a great day with your dad make some memories !!!

ChileMass · Aug 25, 2008

Shot a nifty little 38 yesterday at my local home course (Juniper Hills in Northboro, MA). 3 bogeys and all the rest pars. That's my all-time-low 9-hole score, so I'm pretty pumped. Had everything going great - drives, approaches, short game, putting. Left 2 birdie putts on the lip, but that's golf. And, had 3 witnesses including my lovely wife, so this has BIG bonus points written all over it. A nice Sunday.......

ChileMass · Aug 25, 2008

riverc0il said:
Warp, given my difficulties lately, I think a camera would already do way more harm than good. I am focusing on some major swing issues right now and it is already hard enough dialing learning into just one issue. Last thing I need is a couple dozen things to worry about :roll:

Very mixed bag today on the Par 3 course. Back was still tired from the range on Thursday but I really wanted to play. My focus today was upper body rotation. I had been doing too much full body turning instead of upper body rotation... specifically, rotating around the central vertical body plane instead of rotating the entire body and coming up out of the rotation zone.

Tee'd off with a 3W that dribbled about 20 yards. Then to an 8I to much the same result. At this point, I noticed someone teeing up behind me. Had I drove to the green, I would have taken my time. But I felt rushed having taken three strokes for a distance most people cover in one even on a bad shot. Any ways, 8 strokes later.... I went onto the second hole. By the time I sunk my putt, I decided that I wasn't keeping score for this game :roll: It was just that bad. I tried to stay positive and not keeping score helped. Every hole was hole number 1.

By the fourth, I nailed a beautiful shot past the green off a really great tee shot (some really bad pitching followed that!). I played the fifth better than any previous game and would have made par if not for a two putt. Creamed the ball off the tee on the sixth and put the ball past the tee by twenty yards on my best 8I tee swing ever. More bad pitching followed in addition to a two putt. Hole seven I would rather not discuss. On the eighth, I hit my longest 6I shot ever just a touch over 200 yards which is where I usually put my 3W. That felt great. More bad pitching felt bad. Ninth was horrid as usual with a mulligan off the tee on a lost ball followed by a 20 yard dribbler followed by another 20 yard dribbler followed by a shot into the sand. The sand shot was a really nasty lie as it rolled down a steep 40 degree angle. No problems, my sand game is really good all things considered and I got it within one putt range but only two putted.

So it was a mixed bag. 2/3 iron tee shots were some of my finest hits ever with sensational distance. Accuracy would have been better if they had not flown so far! Pitching was suspect all around. And when I duffed the tee shot my green play that followed was atrocious.

My take away is to keep working on that spine rotation and keep my stance just a tad open to allow my arms to roll over after impact. 3W needs a ton of work. I started off hitting the 3W better than the irons but now I either have a major slice or dribble the ball.

My other take away is to not just buy the cheapest ball I can find. While researching balls for the first time, I noticed that some of the x-out balls I had bought from the local range were in fact tour level balls such as proVs, etc (which, at 50 cents per ball, is a pretty sensational price!!!). It may just have been mental, but I felt I had better shots when I was using my el cheapo balls instead of the tour level top brands.

Steven - you got it bad, bro..........:wink:

Warp Daddy · Aug 25, 2008

ChileMass said:
Steven - you got it bad, bro..........:wink:

+1

drjeff · Aug 25, 2008

Warp Daddy said:
Damn that looks good doc -- make sure your "strategy mojo" is working -- looks like some strategic layups may be in order ---------------------- BUT hell then again it's fun to grip and rip --- have a great day with your dad make some memories !!!

It was a semi butt kicking of the course on me today

But then again at just over 7200 yards, a slope of 146 and a rating of 76.7 well I definately wasn't playing a pitch and putt. I ended up with an 84 after a real lackluster 44 on the front 9 (a double bogey 7 on a par 5 and a triple bogey 7 on a par 4 sure didn't help), had a much more respectable 40 on the back 9. Realistically I should have shot closer to 90, but fortunately for me my irons were ON bigtime (including 2 wedges to less than a foot!).

Just new though that it was going to be an interesting day when as my parents and I were getting the pre round instructions from the starter on the 1st tee, a cart goes by heading to the practice facility (too fancy to call it a driving range

) and in the cart being driven to the range is none other than PGA Touring Pro, Woody Austin(the same guy that fell in the water in last year's president's cup!) and his big staff bag. Turns out that on the "private course" at Lake of Isles today there was a big $$ charity pro am where a few of the PGA Tour pros who just finished the 1st leg of the Fed Ex Cup in NJ yesterday where there picking up some extra $$ on their way to the 2nd leg of the Fed Ex cup this coming weekend outside of Boston.

riverc0il · Aug 25, 2008

Warp Daddy said:
+1

+2^2.

Oh, speaking of squared....... :-D:-D:-D

riverc0il · Aug 25, 2008

ChileMass said:
Shot a nifty little 38 yesterday at my local home course (Juniper Hills in Northboro, MA). 3 bogeys and all the rest pars. That's my all-time-low 9-hole score, so I'm pretty pumped. Had everything going great - drives, approaches, short game, putting. Left 2 birdie putts on the lip, but that's golf. And, had 3 witnesses including my lovely wife, so this has BIG bonus points written all over it. A nice Sunday.......

Nice game, Chile! Thanks for sharing and congrats on your all time low 9 hole score. 2 birdies on the lip is a lot easier to take when you hit your best score. Gotta leave some room for improvement, right?

GrilledSteezeSandwich · Aug 25, 2008

drjeff said:
It was a semi butt kicking of the course on me today But then again at just over 7200 yards, a slope of 146 and a rating of 76.7 well I definately wasn't playing a pitch and putt. I ended up with an 84 after a real lackluster 44 on the front 9 (a double bogey 7 on a par 5 and a triple bogey 7 on a par 4 sure didn't help), had a much more respectable 40 on the back 9. Realistically I should have shot closer to 90, but fortunately for me my irons were ON bigtime (including 2 wedges to less than a foot!).

Just new though that it was going to be an interesting day when as my parents and I were getting the pre round instructions from the starter on the 1st tee, a cart goes by heading to the practice facility (too fancy to call it a driving range ) and in the cart being driven to the range is none other than PGA Touring Pro, Woody Austin(the same guy that fell in the water in last year's president's cup!) and his big staff bag. Turns out that on the "private course" at Lake of Isles today there was a big $$ charity pro am where a few of the PGA Tour pros who just finished the 1st leg of the Fed Ex Cup in NJ yesterday where there picking up some extra $$ on their way to the 2nd leg of the Fed Ex cup this coming weekend outside of Boston.

I assume you play from the Blues..or even Blacks if there is such an animal there...but I assume with your low handicap..you should be playing from the championship tees..what a slope..wow...the hilly courses around me are 120-something..

Philpug · Aug 25, 2008

7200? Damn, thats long. I enjoy playing from 6-6300.

GrilledSteezeSandwich · Aug 25, 2008

I [Hart] Skiing said:
7200? Damn, thats long. I enjoy playing from 6-6300.

times two

Warp Daddy · Aug 25, 2008

drjeff said:
It was a semi butt kicking of the course on me today But then again at just over 7200 yards, a slope of 146 and a rating of 76.7 well I definately wasn't playing a pitch and putt. I ended up with an 84 after a real lackluster 44 on the front 9 (a double bogey 7 on a par 5 and a triple bogey 7 on a par 4 sure didn't help), had a much more respectable 40 on the back 9. Realistically I should have shot closer to 90, but fortunately for me my irons were ON bigtime (including 2 wedges to less than a foot!).

Just new though that it was going to be an interesting day when as my parents and I were getting the pre round instructions from the starter on the 1st tee, a cart goes by heading to the practice facility (too fancy to call it a driving range ) and in the cart being driven to the range is none other than PGA Touring Pro, Woody Austin(the same guy that fell in the water in last year's president's cup!) and his big staff bag. Turns out that on the "private course" at Lake of Isles today there was a big $$ charity pro am where a few of the PGA Tour pros who just finished the 1st leg of the Fed Ex Cup in NJ yesterday where there picking up some extra $$ on their way to the 2nd leg of the Fed Ex cup this coming weekend outside of Boston.

DUDE !!!!!!!! 84 on THAT monster that's a great score !!!

drjeff · Aug 26, 2008

I [Hart] Skiing said:
7200? Damn, thats long. I enjoy playing from 6-6300.

Yup, it's a monster from the back tees! A couple of holes had forced carries from tee to fairway of 265 yards! (and they even had a nice little plaque in the ground at the tee box letting you know that it was 265 to carry the wetlands and reach dry ground

) Many holes had significant elevation changes(both up and down) so you also spent a bunch of time trying to figure out if you need to add a couple of clubs or take a few away - it'a all fun though!

What really was scary is it looked like they were in the process of clearing out a few new tee boxes even further back then the one's I played from, since it's not too big a secret that the folks that run Foxwoods would LOVE to have atleast a Nationwide tour event, if not even a PGA Tour event there.

I really do though enjoy playing a real tough course where I've got to work at each shot and really think my way around the course. Because while that 84 I shot was far from my lowest score this year, I really had one of my better rounds interms of how I hit the ball of the year(okay for 14 holes it was one of my better rounds, I'm just trying to forget the other 4 where I had a few issues in the forum of 3 doubles and a triple

)

GrilledSteezeSandwich · Aug 26, 2008

Was the 265 carry at least downhill from an elevated tee-box?

drjeff · Aug 26, 2008

GrilledSteezeSandwich said:
Was the 265 carry at least downhill from an elevated tee-box?

Yup, BOTH of them were downhill - maybe 100 feet on the first and 75 on the second, and BOTH of them were into the 10mph or so breeze yesterday

Let's just say that I really made sure that I didn't have the ball teed too high on this holes or else I wouldn't have had any chance of clearing the hazard

A quick google image search here

This pic is of the 17th hole, and this tee box is the middle on

I was back a good 75 yards behind this!

This one is of the 14th, and the relatively "short" cary of about 185 from the tees I played to reach the short grass

This last one is of the 11th, a par 3 that was playing 195ish from the tees I played from. It's also one of the 4 holes that I'd rather not remember

as I found out that a 6 iron and a 10mph tailwind was the perfect club for long and left

The course is almost like playing 18 "signature" holes. Of course when the owners of the course are the owners of the 2nd most successful casino in the world (Foxwoods) and they happen to buy this roughly 600 acre rolling piece of terrain with a few lakes in it right across the street from Foxwoods, and then hire Rees Jones to design 36 holes with basically a blank check, you're more than likely going to get a result like this!

riverc0il · Aug 29, 2008

Shot a 46 today on the par 27 course today playing mostly solid double boogie golf (a measurable improvement from my last three outings!). Really need to work on my woods and drivers. I sliced some some balls about as far right as I have ever seen at an incredible steep angle off the tee on holes 1 & 2. After loosing a ball to the woods on the second tee, I put the wood back in my bag and grabbed an iron knowing I would come up short but at least have a straight shot.

After starting off with a 7 and a 6, I nailed the edge of the green off the tee on hole 3 and pared it after a chip shot that just missed. After duffing a tee shot while trying to play through a pair of older golfers, I notched my last 6 of the round and played double boogie golf or better for the last five holes. Hitting that par felt really nice on the 3rd. I had a great tee shot on 5 and 6 (my 2nd GIR for the round). Bad tee shots plagued my final three holes but I mad some great recovery shots and good chips including a beauty of a sand wedge down the fairway on hole 9 which sailed just past the tee onto the green's edge. That was a pretty, if slightly over powered, shot. When I get a clean hit, I always have too much club. I can't wait until my club selection is based off of a clean hit versus what I usually need to hit to reach a given yardage.

Overall, a great evening. Work has sucked this week but its great to be able to complete focus on something and totally get my mind off work, which I haven't been able to do for a single waking hour otherwise this entire week. Also, tried some new balls and decided I really enjoyed swinging with the Top Flite D2 Feel. Good day of golf defined? I found just as many balls as I lost today. If I could hit a wood without slicing, I feel a below 40 score could have been attainable which is where I feel my golf should be.

From a technique stand point, I have been working on some stance issues. Today, I made my best shots when I felt like I was hanging my rear end out a little more which better allowed me to rotate the torso and hips in the correct rotational position. Which in turn, made my hand position seem much more natural as I felt my arms swung below my head better than usual. Good progress with the irons. Teeing off with the irons needs to be dialed in and slicing with the woods is just terrible. Worse than when I first started swinging the club, which is really dumbfounding.

GrilledSteezeSandwich · Aug 29, 2008

Nice report Rivercoil...I think I'm playing golf Monday morning. The good thing about being a new golfer is that everyday you improve..for me..somedays I regress..As you start to make more solid impact..you'll eventually need less club. I used to hit my 7 iron 150 yards...now if I have 150 yards..I'll hit an 8 iron..or even a 9-iron if the ground is really dry or it's a par-3 where I can tee the ball up.

I almost always hit a bad shot when I play through a slow group because I feel rushed..

Trekchick · Aug 29, 2008

Pardon me while I take a cold shower.
If there were such a thing as a golfgasm, That would do it.

drjeff said:
Yup, BOTH of them were downhill - maybe 100 feet on the first and 75 on the second, and BOTH of them were into the 10mph or so breeze yesterday Let's just say that I really made sure that I didn't have the ball teed too high on this holes or else I wouldn't have had any chance of clearing the hazard

A quick google image search here

This pic is of the 17th hole, and this tee box is the middle on I was back a good 75 yards behind this!

This one is of the 14th, and the relatively "short" cary of about 185 from the tees I played to reach the short grass

This last one is of the 11th, a par 3 that was playing 195ish from the tees I played from. It's also one of the 4 holes that I'd rather not remember as I found out that a 6 iron and a 10mph tailwind was the perfect club for long and left

The course is almost like playing 18 "signature" holes. Of course when the owners of the course are the owners of the 2nd most successful casino in the world (Foxwoods) and they happen to buy this roughly 600 acre rolling piece of terrain with a few lakes in it right across the street from Foxwoods, and then hire Rees Jones to design 36 holes with basically a blank check, you're more than likely going to get a result like this!

riverc0il · Aug 30, 2008

Jiminy Crickets, I think I just noticed what I have been doing wrong that has resulted in my slicing. While browsing the for tips, I found this video series:
http://www.youtube.com/user/clubfacegolf

The first two videos, especially the second, reminded me that when I first started playing, I was experimenting with my grip and I had used a "stronger" grip when hitting the driver. I used to hit decent shots and only sliced occasionally and almost never hit the ripping intense slices that I have been hitting recently. Going to hit the range sometime soon and try gripping for the driver and woods only with a stronger grip (my irons are usually pretty darn straight, thankfully).

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