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    Interesting. I wonder how that effects the EB5 deal. Personally, I think this would be a good thing. I see how popular the hotel at Jay is. They are always full with the events they have coupled with the off mountain facilities like the water park and the ice rink. This will be good for convention groups and Weddings on top of skiers in the winter.


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    I have not been to Sugarbush now for seven years, but a spa would be a good idea. It will be a good weatherproof option for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    Probably a smart move. The demand for the high end condos they've been building just isn't there.
    This might be the building E in the Gadd brook/Rice brook plans. Thats the one that goes at the base of the old Valley House. It was always supposed to be a hotel, with something else on the first floor, maybe the spa and conference center. Letters a-d referred to condo developments, A-rice brook, B Gadd Brook, and C/d were lower down/ on the side lot. But this hotel sounds bigger than a remember building E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benski View Post
    This might be the building E in the Gadd brook/Rice brook plans. Thats the one that goes at the base of the old Valley House. It was always supposed to be a hotel, with something else on the first floor, maybe the spa and conference center. Letters a-d referred to condo developments, A-rice brook, B Gadd Brook, and C/d were lower down/ on the side lot. But this hotel sounds bigger than a remember building E.
    Could but, but it does sound like it would be different than what they originally planned for building E. Building E originally had only 30 studio/hotel rooms in it with mixed use space on the 1st floor.

    To add context, here's what was said in the e-mail from Sugarbush:
    While we had envisioned building additional condominiums, we are now in the process of rethinking the best use of the land in the base area and are thinking that a conference center with a hotel and spa is what is most in demand.
    To me this sounds like they want to change the latest Master Plan a bit.

    In other news, did anyone know GMVS was widening the lower portion of the Brambles trail? They received the ACT250 approval last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    In other news, did anyone know GMVS was widening the lower portion of the Brambles trail? They received the ACT250 approval last week.
    That sounds so uncalled for. I have been hoping for a while they would let half that section of Brambles fill in so the whole trail is narrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benski View Post
    That sounds so uncalled for. I have been hoping for a while they would let half that section of Brambles fill in so the whole trail is narrow.
    Here's the reasoning:
    The improvements to the existing Brambles trail at Sugarbush Resort will provide improved race training for GMVS students and improved terrain for all skiers. The proposed width of the trail widening is necessary in order for the race hill to be homologated/approved by the ski racing governing authorities – FIS and U.S. Ski and Snowboard. Homologation approval will enable the trail to be used as a Giant Slalom racing venue. This approval requires a minimum width of 50 meters and the project proposes improving the trail to this width. The proposed width will provide for appropriate space to erect safety fencing and will provide industry standard distances between gate placement, race fencing/netting and fixed obstacles such as snow guns and trees. By maintaining these standards, the trail will be able to be used safely for races, training and all skiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benski View Post
    That sounds so uncalled for. I have been hoping for a while they would let half that section of Brambles fill in so the whole trail is narrow.
    Wasn’t it widened recently? Like in the last ten years or so?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    Wasn’t it widened recently? Like in the last ten years or so?
    2004 according to the ACT 250 database. I couldn't find specifics in that older approval of the plans for exactly which part was widened and by how much though (looks like maybe not all the files pertaining to the approval were uploaded to the ACT250 db for that entry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    2004 according to the ACT 250 database. I couldn't find specifics in that older approval of the plans for exactly which part was widened and by how much though (looks like maybe not all the files pertaining to the approval were uploaded to the ACT250 db for that entry).
    From here is it in 2003 Screen Shot 2018-07-16 at 1.31.00 PM.jpg
    Here is it in 2006Screen Shot 2018-07-16 at 1.30.52 PM.jpg

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    I've given up on Brambles as a trail for a while now. The woods are fun but the trail is closed so often and it is not worth getting yelled at for poaching by the GMVS coaches at the bottom. They should just change the name of trail.

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