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    Quote Originally Posted by Orca View Post
    All this fuss about ticket prices. We need a bigger solution. Much bigger. Universal skiing! Surely there must be a Democratic presidential candidate one-upping the field by advocating for a "free skiing for everyone" government program in a bid to win the free-stuff primary. Child care, college, guaranteed income, reparations, affordable housing, medicare for all -- don't stop there! -- FREE SKIING!
    No doubt that will be Bernie's next move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    No doubt that will be Bernie's next move.
    " Feel the Bern Turns" I may have to reconsider my political views ......Hmmmmm?
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    Slight difference in what you get at the bird for the money.
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    $129 was Snowbird's holiday rate last season FWIW.
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    New Hampshire primary slalom: Best time on a Nastar course gets all the delegates; Bernie should be a shoe in, he's lived in VT for decades. Close second is Biden, who was born in Scranton and went to law school in Syracuse. Forget Warren, she was born in Oklahoma and went to school in Texas. Dark horse: Yang, who went to high school at Exeter Academy in NH.
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    So anything from Win’s presentation today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumbler View Post
    So anything from Win’s presentation today?
    Nothing related to the "rumor" in this thread if that's what you want to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WWF-VT View Post
    Nothing related to the "rumor" in this thread if that's what you want to know.
    So I take it that the “rumor” is that SV is selling Sugarbush.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrailboss View Post
    So I take it that the “rumor” is that SV is selling Sugarbush.


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    Though several people I spoke with ahead of Win's (excellent) presentation were also anticipating validation of 'the rumor', and with many sound reasons to seek big money for future wish list upgrades, there was no bombshell news...just a thorough review of Sugarbush's current solid position amongst giants in the industry. Think snow!


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    No he did not say anything about selling. He did say that he hoped to be the forerunner for the pond skimming for years to come.

    Highlights:
    - Spoke very broadly about the difficulties they are faced with. This includes battling with the Giants with price structure, insurance costs are up, not enough labor to fill positions, Tax in VT and how it is not very business friendly, etc. '
    - He spoke about the fact that as an individual resort, they have very little negotiating power at the table when it comes to purchasing unlike the big companies.
    - Spoke about the environment and their partnering with POW and 1% for the planet. They have upped the anti and are giving back 1% of all food and beverage.
    - Spoke about the awards they have received for their commitment to the environment.
    - They have a new Food and Beverage Manager from France that has lots of experience. Jerry Noonie retired this year. (I liked Jerry. He was a mountain biker and saw him all the time out on the trails.)
    - Spoke about the $4M capital outlay this year. - New $500K winch cat. New gear box for Bravo. Put power underground for HG and Castlerock. New roofs and such.
    - Spoke about the need to expand snow-making to recover better after adverse weather. (Obviously I liked that one). Unfortunately that will be a future item as the cash outlay will be huge to create new water reservoirs.

    I may have forgot a few things. The overall presentation was good. He does a nice job. I could not help but think that all the discussion about the issues they are faced with was a little foreshadowing. Maybe not. Just a feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    No he did not say anything about selling. He did say that he hoped to be the forerunner for the pond skimming for years to come.

    Highlights:
    - Spoke very broadly about the difficulties they are faced with. This includes battling with the Giants with price structure, insurance costs are up, not enough labor to fill positions, Tax in VT and how it is not very business friendly, etc. '
    - He spoke about the fact that as an individual resort, they have very little negotiating power at the table when it comes to purchasing unlike the big companies.
    - Spoke about the environment and their partnering with POW and 1% for the planet. They have upped the anti and are giving back 1% of all food and beverage.
    - Spoke about the awards they have received for their commitment to the environment.
    - They have a new Food and Beverage Manager from France that has lots of experience. Jerry Noonie retired this year. (I liked Jerry. He was a mountain biker and saw him all the time out on the trails.)
    - Spoke about the $4M capital outlay this year. - New $500K winch cat. New gear box for Bravo. Put power underground for HG and Castlerock. New roofs and such.
    - Spoke about the need to expand snow-making to recover better after adverse weather. (Obviously I liked that one). Unfortunately that will be a future item as the cash outlay will be huge to create new water reservoirs.

    I may have forgot a few things. The overall presentation was good. He does a nice job. I could not help but think that all the discussion about the issues they are faced with was a little foreshadowing. Maybe not. Just a feeling.
    Thx Hawk, good intel for those of us who could not make it up. I run a couple small businesses - and the pressure from regs and government ( but I repeat myself) couldn't be higher.

    I understand SV's struggles from his perspective. On top of that you have the weather, economy, and the help factor.

    Also, everyone is leaving a given company at some point - even the president.

    We hope there's a few more years of course. Change is inevitable.

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