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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I hope that everybody realizes that the larger resorts and the big conglomerates are raising the daily window prices to basically force people to consider season passes so they get their operating capital up front. That is the main reason the window prices are up so much. This is the industry trend that was created first by Vail.
    And the strategy certainly makes sense. Can't say I blame the resorts for wanting to shift their revenue to more of a stable "guaranteed" up front amount rather than a far more variable amount when a higher percentage of your visits are day tickets vs passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dog View Post
    Guess if your Leon Hess - and you need a loss on a small part of your portfolio to balance taxable gains in other areas - you can spend like he did at Snowbasin - return or no return. He at least got the Olympics there.
    Earl Holding, not Leon Hess, owned Sinclair and Snowbasin (and Sun Valley). He was in both oil and resort/hospitality industries.


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  3. #5843
    Quote Originally Posted by cdskier View Post
    And the strategy certainly makes sense. Can't say I blame the resorts for wanting to shift their revenue to more of a stable "guaranteed" up front amount rather than a far more variable amount when a higher percentage of your visits are day tickets vs passes.
    Makes sense to me - and it also forces those who are on the fence to ski more - and the more you ski. . . . . . it's like safe sex, one has to practice, practice, practice to improve.

    That old stat of most middle of road skiers having 3-4 days a year out on slopes - well - I don't golf but can't imagine improving on 4 days a year.
    If you have option to ski at say $50/$60$70 a day and get 10-12 in you're gonna improve and like it more.

    And the stable income is easier to allocate properly.

    I'm all for it if it helps grow the industry.

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    Although when the big guys raise their walk up rate they also lower or keep low the season pass rate. The non Vail’s tend to only raise their daily tickets and not lower their season pass rates. Well at least not to the “epic” value.


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  5. #5845
    Summit Ventures would be perfectly justified in taking the best offer (most lucrative) should Sugarbush be sold.

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    I got to wondering how walk up tickets have increased vs inflation. According to snowdaze, in 1996 a Killington window ticket was $49. This was before E-tickets, before Epic Passes. Dollartimes.com provides that a 1996 dollar is worth $1.64 now. So a walk up ticket should cost an inflation adjusted $80.36. Killington's peak walk up rate this season looks like $129. Killington's advance discount K-ticket is.... drum roll please.... $79.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mister moose View Post
    I got to wondering how walk up tickets have increased vs inflation. According to snowdaze, in 1996 a Killington window ticket was $49. This was before E-tickets, before Epic Passes. Dollartimes.com provides that a 1996 dollar is worth $1.64 now. So a walk up ticket should cost an inflation adjusted $80.36. Killington's peak walk up rate this season looks like $129. Killington's advance discount K-ticket is.... drum roll please.... $79.
    How far in advance does that K ticket need to be purchased and is it date specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    How far in advance does that K ticket need to be purchased and is it date specific?

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    You could get them through Morgan Stanley's reserved program for $72 a day last year with no blackouts. We stayed an extra day at Killington last year and bought tickets the morning of at that price.

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  9. #5849
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    How far in advance does that K ticket need to be purchased and is it date specific?
    The "K-Ticket" product at the $79 price is only available through October 17th, but is valid any date of the season. I used to buy them years ago when they were in the $50-55 range (before I made Sugarbush my home mountain).

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    Enough already about season ticket and day ticket pricing.
    Isn't this thread about Sugarbush ?


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