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wa-loaf · Jan 7, 2010

billski said:
OK, so that takes the sample size up to 10, 20 or 30? Still a small sample size in my book! :wink:
p.s., my sister is the only sibling using the internet and she uses it to read emails about once a month. I know hundreds of people like that.

My Mom and my inlaws are all on FaceBook and they are in their 60's pushing 70. It gets used to varying degrees, but it's an easy way for them to keep up with what their kids and grandkids are doing.

You just seem fairly internet savvy with your dashboard and everything. I assumed you were on FB.

billski · Jan 7, 2010

wa-loaf said:
You post your trips or gear reviews on facebook, maybe some of your friends check it out and join AZ ... also just an easy way to share the same info with more people from your standpoint.

It's more of a social interaction thing, not a technology thing. I'm an engineer by training, so I like technology and have a lot of gadgets. But in the 60s and 70s, we developed our relationships face to face and with letter writing. Phone calls were expensive. Calculators were non-existent. Computers cost millions and were sealed access in back rooms. I programmed with punch cards. Then again, I helped design fundamental computer products that make Facebook even possible., but that does not mean I am comfortable with developing and sustaining relationships online. I suspect you will be able to do that, as will my kids.

Information was always stale - if you want to be up to date, you read the newspaper. You have several deep relationships, not hundreds of shallow. No insult to the group at all, you're all nice folks, but I wouldn't refer to any of you as "friends" unless I met you face to face. Again, it's a social thing.

Asking these old horses to change to a different form of social interaction is difficult. I had a friend who began issuing Christmas "dispatches", a photocopied, printed letter outlining his past year. It was not even signed with a pen. Read like a press release. I was insulted, as were many other people; that's the way we are. So, I'd argue the "generation gap" is always there, not that many transcend it. My congratulations to you. The "gap" was just as present with my parents, and grandparents, it was just different issues.

I have a Facebook account, so do most of my cousins, alumni friends, ski and hiking buds, but we hardly ever use it. We communicate by email and phone - keeping it personal and private. It demonstrates value in the person and the relationship. I see it differently as do you. There is no right and wrong here - it's a matter of style.

Greg · Jan 7, 2010

billski said:
It's more of a social interaction thing, not a technology thing. I'm an engineer by training, so I like technology and have a lot of gadgets. But in the 60s and 70s, we developed our relationships face to face and with letter writing. Phone calls were expensive. Calculators were non-existent. Computers cost millions and were sealed access in back rooms. I programmed with punch cards. Then again, I helped design fundamental computer products that make Facebook even possible., but that does not mean I am comfortable with developing and sustaining relationships online. I suspect you will be able to do that, as will my kids.

Information was always stale - if you want to be up to date, you read the newspaper. You have several deep relationships, not hundreds of shallow. No insult to the group at all, you're all nice folks, but I wouldn't refer to any of you as "friends" unless I met you face to face. Again, it's a social thing.

Asking these old horses to change to a different form of social interaction is difficult. I had a friend who began issuing Christmas "dispatches", a photocopied, printed letter outlining his past year. It was not even signed with a pen. Read like a press release. I was insulted, as were many other people; that's the way we are. So, I'd argue the "generation gap" is always there, not that many transcend it. My congratulations to you. The "gap" was just as present with my parents, and grandparents, it was just different issues.

I have a Facebook account, so do most of my cousins, alumni friends, ski and hiking buds, but we hardly ever use it. We communicate by email and phone - keeping it personal and private. It demonstrates value in the person and the relationship. I see it differently as do you. There is no right and wrong here - it's a matter of style.

Jeez, billski. You're really not that old, but you sure act it sometimes... :roll:

Newsflash: Most of us grew up communicating by letters and payphones.

Greg · Jan 7, 2010

BTW, Facebook is not meant to be an alternative to building real life relationships, but rather to complement to them. Very much like this site, on which you've accumulated 6,600+ posts. I've reconnected to some degree with people I haven't communicated with in years. That's kinda cool.

billski · Jan 7, 2010

Greg said:
Jeez, billski. You're really not that old, but you sure act it sometimes... :roll:

Newsflash: Most of us grew up communicating by letters and payphones.

Greg,
There is a sizable population who share my attitude. It's all about respecting different approaches to living. If you do not encounter it, you run in a different social circle. Call me acting "old", that's OK with me. Welcome to my world!

Greg · Jan 7, 2010

BTW, given your updates in [thread="26192"]this thread[/thread], you've effectively been Twittering, and you didn't even know it... :lol:

gmcunni · Jan 7, 2010

Greg said:
BTW, given your updates in [thread="26192"]this thread[/thread], you've effectively been Twittering, and you didn't even know it... :lol:

wait, so if YOU tweet a thread that i post in does that mean i'm being published too? isn't that an invasion of my privacy?

wa-loaf · Jan 7, 2010

gmcunni said:
wait, so if YOU tweet a thread that i post in does that mean i'm being published too? isn't that an invasion of my privacy?

This isn't a private forum, everything you post here shows up on a google search.

Greg · Jan 7, 2010

gmcunni said:
wait, so if YOU tweet a thread that i post in does that mean i'm being published too? isn't that an invasion of my privacy?

Not really, just a link to the thread is being tweeted, or posted to Facebook. People could easily do that manually anyway. Also, thousands of people find their way to these forums every day via search engines so things posted here are hardly private.

bvibert · Jan 7, 2010

gmcunni said:
wait, so if YOU tweet a thread that i post in does that mean i'm being published too? isn't that an invasion of my privacy?

You're posting on a public forum, what privacy would it be a violation of? It's just another method of sharing AZ's content with more people. Someone could just as easily email a link to a thread here to all of their friends and accomplish the same thing...

deadheadskier · Jan 7, 2010

I know more people in their 50s and 60s that use Facebook than those who don't. I probably only visit the site once a week unless I get an email notification that someone is trying to connect with me in some way.

gmcunni · Jan 7, 2010

bvibert said:
You're posting on a public forum, what privacy would it be a violation of? It's just another method of sharing AZ's content with more people. Someone could just as easily email a link to a thread here to all of their friends and accomplish the same thing...

oh, did i forget the winkie? ;-)

bvibert · Jan 7, 2010

gmcunni said:
oh, did i forget the winkie? ;-)

I hoped that you were joking.

Greg · Jan 7, 2010

gmcunni said:
oh, did i forget the winkie? ;-)

Razz would have worked tooo..... :razz:

Trev · Jan 7, 2010

gmcunni said:
wait, so if YOU tweet a thread that i post in does that mean i'm being published too? isn't that an invasion of my privacy?

Your on the Internet, anywhere, you've given up your privacy already.

2knees · Jan 7, 2010

Trev said:
Your on the Internet, anywhere, you've given up your privacy already.

dude, the train already left the station.......

: obligatory smilie:

billski · Jan 7, 2010

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deadheadskier said:
I know more people in their 50s and 60s that use Facebook than those who don't. I probably only visit the site once a week unless I get an email notification that someone is trying to connect with me in some way.

And I know more who are not on Facebook. Anecdotal information is just that. None of us can draw generalizations from our own own social circle.

severine · Jan 7, 2010

I assume that's the same age group that balked when internet first became available in homes, as well as when home computers became the norm.

The data you quoted is almost a year old. I'm not saying there are necessarily 5m people in your age bracket using FB, but a lot can change in a year.

Greg · Jan 7, 2010

billski said:

That data is almost a year old. It's my observation that 2009 was the year Facebook really took off. Secondly, Facebook was originally created for university students to network so it's logical that the highest percentage of users are in the 18-25 category. Also, I wonder how that graph aligns with the average age of all Internet users.

billski said:
And I know more who are not on Facebook.

billski said:
None of us can draw generalizations from our own own social circle.

You immediately contradicted yourself here. :lol:

Anyway, not sure what we're debating anymore. It's not for billski, and that's fine, but I think it has more to do with his personality than his age. I know a lot of people that scoffed at Facebook before they started using it (myself included), and now enjoy it. It is an interesting social experiment.

gmcunni · Jan 7, 2010

billski said:
Same gen? I'm 54.

your data source charts us together :razz:

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