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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    It was interesting to see something that had a more aesthetic quality...vs straight utility.
    This actually isn't anything particularly new. The LMC CF, for instance, was a nice looking, seemingly easier to use tractor, as compared to the then-popular 3700. As comfy and flashy as the cab was, the tractor itself was flawed and led in part to the end of LMC's alpine ski area snowcat business.



    Nonetheless, a powerful, wide tiller cat certainly can have a place in the industry. While it may be useless on narrow trails, it may help hasten the grooming of wide boulevards.

  2. #12
    From a non New England ski centric point of view, they're probably useful where there aren't trails so much as slopes and pistes:

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  3. #13
    How wide is this machine's tiller?

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    How wide is this machine's tiller?
    Tiller is 20' wide. 24' with the elephant ears down.

  5. #15
    What's standard? or maybe average is a better term?

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  7. #17
    So, for a trail like Inverness, this type of machine would cut down grooming time significantly.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by BushMogulMaster View Post
    It's too big for many ski areas. In fact, most ski area shop doors are not wide enough to accommodate the vehicle track-to-track, let alone with the tiller.

    In fact, I was just thinking about what it would be like if we had them here at Sugarbush. At Mt. Ellen alone, there are several trails it wouldn't fit on. Northway, Northridge Expressway, Wayback, The Alley (Lower FIS Runout), all of the narrow cutovers between the Sunny D trails, Upper Crackerjack where it goes around the Slidebrook load area, the little road around the bottom of GMX. Heck, it wouldn't even fit up the cat road from the shop to the mountain.

    This machine is good for the Okemos of the world. Wide open cruisers. Anywhere else it's a pain in the butt. The Bison looks like a nicer machine for normal grooming operations:

    The Bison X arrived this AM on a flatbed. Hadn't made it past the parking lot next to Mount Snow's Mountain Ops building when I left. They had actually brought BOTH of the Beast's over there when I was leaving with the Bison X parked infront of them, and the Bison X looked real small next to the Beast's (a bunch of guys in Prinoth jackets were working on all 3). Also as I was leaving, a nice shiny red Pisten Bulley 400winch had just been offloaded from the flat bad and was about to get it's tracks hooked up. Lots of "toys" at Mount Snow right now, and this is before many of them likely show up again in early April for the Ski Area Management Magazine 2nd annual East Coast Cutter's camp.
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  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by deadheadskier View Post
    So, for a trail like Inverness, this type of machine would cut down grooming time significantly.
    Less passes, less time, less fuel, etc. Plus, many of these machines are starting to have a GPS system that allows one to see how efficiently the machines are working, on hill snow depths, engine idle time, etc, etc, etc.
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  10. #20
    Those gps are going to steer the machines. The operators will turn them around get them close and hit the button. Supposed to make them ten percent more efficient.

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