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  1. #431

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    Not a car guy... or wealthy. Funny to hear all this talk of options on vehicles that would mean less than nothing to me. That being said, having a manual transmission is a deal breaker for me. I would simply never own an automatic. Thankfully my last 3 cars (all base models, all bought new for CHEAP): Civic, Jetta, and Focus (in that order) were available with manual transmissions. In fact the dealerships were happy to have me take them off their hands, as apparently those who seek or even consider them are few and far between! Kinda sad... I think the bigger problem isn't people's inherent preference, its more the fact that many young people simply never even learn how to drive a stick.

  2. #432
    ^^
    The times have changed where it doesn't make sense to put manual tranny in entry level cheap-o cars. Not enough people can operate them, and people who buy these cars just want it to basically work.

    The times have also changed wherein the best driver on a manual transmission can't outrun a new 8 speed dual-clutch automatic. So from a pure performance standpoint, look at cars like Dodge Demon. Automatic only. That transmission requires so much special programming to keep the rear wheels from completely burning out at 808whp.

    Manual transmissions *do* still have a place but these days it's stuff like rear-wheel drive roadsters (Miata, BRZ, Fiat Spider, BMW M2) where it's more about driver engagement than raw power.

    Another place they are still viable is in AWD hot hatches and rally-inspired cars (Golf GTi/R, WRX/STi, Focus RS, Fiesta ST, Alfa Romeo Giulia Quad etc). These cars also reward driver engagement. We can put the Civic Si and Type-R in this category too even though FWD.

    Anything that could potentially be a tuner car ought to stay manual equipped.

    BMW recently dropped manual on 3-series. Too bad but hopefully drives sales to competitors who are on the fence.

    Trucks aimed at a non-geriatric sector, as in not these $80,000 luxury Longhorn rigs, ought to always have manual tranny option.

    Tuners and crawlers might be a small segment but they generate enthusiasm and reputation beyond those numbers.

  3. #433
    Quote Originally Posted by sull1102 View Post
    Wait you found a four door convertible? I don't think there's been any of those manufacturered since way, way, way back even on the ultra high end side of things.
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    Meant four seat convertible.
    Meanwhile - true confessions - I am still using the old family minivan as my daily driver. The old 2007 Town and Country just won't die.

  4. #434
    Quote Originally Posted by jimk View Post
    Meant four seat convertible.
    Meanwhile - true confessions - I am still using the old family minivan as my daily driver. The old 2007 Town and Country just won't die.
    But you will get tired of patching the rust!!!! I have 3, 2000, 2005, & 2007 and the only one without bondo is the 2000 with 306k because it was a southern car.

  5. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by jimk View Post
    Meant four seat convertible.
    Meanwhile - true confessions - I am still using the old family minivan as my daily driver. The old 2007 Town and Country just won't die.
    Ohhhhh I was gonna say you're a hero if you plan on daily driving a sweet Lincoln from wayyyyyyy back! I did realize the Wrangler I guess is now a 4dr convertible, sorta. Best of luck in your search though when the time comes!

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  6. #436
    Local Wash DC drive-time radio DJs (The Sports Junkies) were talking about manual transmission this morning and how they would hate to have a manual transmission car in rush hour traffic. But they agreed having one would cut down on the danger of texting and driving. They said only 4% of cars in the US are manual transmission at this point. I had an MG from 1978 to 1988 and used to enjoy commuting in it. I kept the roof down all summer and would purposely take curvy back roads to work

    Not a convertible, but my brother had a second car for a couple years when he lived in North Carolina back in the mid '70s. It was an early '60s Chrysler New Yorker that looked like this:
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    Last edited by jimk; Oct 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM.

  7. #437
    shit happens, wear a helmet.

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  8. #438
    Classic


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  9. #439
    Ha, I owned a few Ford's with the keypads on the doors, was nice for leaving ur car running locked while running into a convienence store and knowing someone would at least have to break the window to take off in your car. Was good for skiing too, used to leave my keys in the glovebox. No chance of losing them there. Now I drive stick, and must admit that I leave it running figuring any dick wanting to take my car probably can't.

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  10. #440
    Quote Originally Posted by Cornhead View Post
    Ha, I owned a few Ford's with the keypads on the doors, was nice for leaving ur car running locked while running into a convienence store and knowing someone would at least have to break the window to take off in your car. Was good for skiing too, used to leave my keys in the glovebox. No chance of losing them there. Now I drive stick, and must admit that I leave it running figuring any dick wanting to take my car probably can't.

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    The keypad on Fords is literally one of my favorite gadgets I've ever had on a car. Loved it for both those reasons. Great during summer too when hiking or going to the beach. I have no idea why all brands don't offer it as an option. So practical

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