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"too much snow to ski".

Unfortunately my wife falls into this category 8-(

Took her to a big dump when we first started dating at Killington. What a miserable experience. Needless to say she let others ski the pow and came back out later on.
 

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YEA!!!! *LIKE*

The difference between this and the other 99% movement is you can become part of the powder 1% if you want to, you just have to commit and make the appropriate life adjustments. They are all voluntary. They can be painful or entail sacrifice, but it is a choice.
 

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YEA!!!! *LIKE*

The difference between this and the other 99% movement is you can become part of the powder 1% if you want to, you just have to commit and make the appropriate life adjustments. They are all voluntary. They can be painful or entail sacrifice, but it is a choice.

What's the difference? To be part of the economic 1%, the same list applies.
 

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YEA!!!! *LIKE*

The difference between this and the other 99% movement is you can become part of the powder 1% if you want to, you just have to commit and make the appropriate life adjustments. They are all voluntary. They can be painful or entail sacrifice, but it is a choice.

No, I am entitled to that 1%.
 

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The difference between this and the other 99% movement is you can become part of the powder 1% if you want to, you just have to commit and make the appropriate life adjustments. They are all voluntary. They can be painful or entail sacrifice, but it is a choice.
And the other 1% has no one who made it there on their own, of their own choices. Like building a massive holding company from working in the mail room. Or starting a computer company out of a garage. Or starting a massive software company from scratch.

No one like that ends up as billionaires.
 

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Unfortunately my wife falls into this category 8-(

Took her to a big dump when we first started dating at Killington. What a miserable experience. Needless to say she let others ski the pow and came back out later on.

True story

A powder day at Vail was the final straw that ended my on again off again relationship of 8 years with my high school and college girlfriend.

Following college, she spent a winter in Aspen. I had stayed back east in Stowe. I went out to visit her to some skiing as well as to see if it was worth the two of us resuming our relationship when she got back east in the spring. I got skunked on fresh snow the whole week. I was flying out of Avon, so were going to ski Vail for a day before I left. Vail got 12 inches that night.

She couldn't drag herself out of bed until 10AM, so we ended up getting there only in time to ski a half day. After two runs she wanted to go into the lodge and drink hot chocolate. This was a bluebird Colorado day, not cold at all. So, I left her in the lodge and said see you at the hotel at the end of the day. :lol:

Needless to say I didn't get any from her that night nor ever again after that. :lol:

I think that experience is why I don't mind that my wife doesn't ski. I never have to worry about her screwing up a powder day for me. :daffy: :)
 

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YEA!!!! *LIKE*

The difference between this and the other 99% movement is you can become part of the powder 1% if you want to, you just have to commit and make the appropriate life adjustments. They are all voluntary. They can be painful or entail sacrifice, but it is a choice.

See the 2 replies below

What's the difference? To be part of the economic 1%, the same list applies.

And the other 1% has no one who made it there on their own, of their own choices. Like building a massive holding company from working in the mail room. Or starting a computer company out of a garage. Or starting a massive software company from scratch.

No one like that ends up as billionaires.

The theory behind this is comparing apples to apples. And having met many 1% powderhounds and 1% businessmen/women underneath it all BOTH groups do have a very similar drive to achieve, even if what they're trying to achieve is quite different
 

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70% of the billionaires in this country are born into it; winners of the genetic lottery. Is it possible for someone to be the next Steve Jobs? Obviously it is, but most at the top are born there.
 

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And the other 1% has no one who made it there on their own, of their own choices. Like building a massive holding company from working in the mail room. Or starting a computer company out of a garage. Or starting a massive software company from scratch.

No one like that ends up as billionaires.
You missed my point. Not everyone can just decide they are going to change their lives and instantly be part of the richest 1% of the USA. However, any one with the will and desire CAN make radical life changes to ensure they get that 1% powder. It might entail massive sacrifice and radical lifestyle alteration and it might take some time to work out the employment situation. But any one can do that... whereas to be the top of the top financially, even with all the hard work and planning in the world, there is a high degree of luck and chance involved. And for many people, the deck is stacked against them (i.e. people that were too poor to afford college, etc. not that college is a requirement for success.... but the more hurdles there are, the more reliant you are on chance, etc.).

Pretty much the only hurdle in any ones way of making all the best powder days are the decisions they make regarding their lifestyle choices. Got married? Your choice. Had kids? Your choice (and if by accident, not using protection is a choice). Want to make lots of money? Your choice. Don't want to get a job that lets you be free to ski mornings from 8a-11a mid-week? Your choice.

Not getting a multi-million dollar pay check? Well, there is a LOT of competition to crack to get into that bracket. You can't just make a simple life course adjustment to get there and luck and chance play big factors.
 

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70% of the billionaires in this country are born into it; winners of the genetic lottery. Is it possible for someone to be the next Steve Jobs? Obviously it is, but most at the top are born there.
Which means 30% of the very small group of 400 got there themselves, a decent chunk of them from pretty modest beginnings. Larry Elliot was born to a 19 year old unwed mother, George Lucas's father owned a stationary store and he went to a junior college, etc.

But how much someone else makes doesn't impact your life. Someone from the inner city can get a job at 15, go to community college and get an ok job, and then work on advanced degrees. Or finish high school and get an apprenticeship for skilled trades. And then live within your means. Someone from the bottom 10% will have a very difficult time getting into the top 10%, but except in a pure communist state, that's a fundamental truth. Economic mobility exists.

The fact that we even talk about economic class is solely due to Marx. In order for classes to exist, there need to be actual divisions between classes. There aren't. The distribution of income in the U.S. is a fairly well behaved Pareto distribution. It's not like there's a gap between people in the middle class earning $100K/year or less and those in the upper class making more than $250K/year.

When it comes down to it, we still have the second highest median income in the world, after Luxembourg. Paying attention to what the 1% has that the 99% doesn't serves no purpose except fostering jealousy and false outrage for the pursuits of political gains by the extremely few.
 

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You missed my point. Not everyone can just decide they are going to change their lives and instantly be part of the richest 1% of the USA. However, any one with the will and desire CAN make radical life changes to ensure they get that 1% powder. It might entail massive sacrifice and radical lifestyle alteration and it might take some time to work out the employment situation. But any one can do that... whereas to be the top of the top financially, even with all the hard work and planning in the world, there is a high degree of luck and chance involved. And for many people, the deck is stacked against them (i.e. people that were too poor to afford college, etc. not that college is a requirement for success.... but the more hurdles there are, the more reliant you are on chance, etc.).

Pretty much the only hurdle in any ones way of making all the best powder days are the decisions they make regarding their lifestyle choices. Got married? Your choice. Had kids? Your choice (and if by accident, not using protection is a choice). Want to make lots of money? Your choice. Don't want to get a job that lets you be free to ski mornings from 8a-11a mid-week? Your choice.

Not getting a multi-million dollar pay check? Well, there is a LOT of competition to crack to get into that bracket. You can't just make a simple life course adjustment to get there and luck and chance play big factors.

Pppppppfffffffft

To crack the top 1%, you need an AGI of $343,927. That's within reach of a lot of people who start their own businesses. ...but to get there, you likely didn't have many days off for 20 years and you likely plowed much of your profits back into the business rather than taking heli-skiing trips.
 

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You missed my point. Not everyone can just decide they are going to change their lives and instantly be part of the richest 1% of the USA. However, any one with the will and desire CAN make radical life changes to ensure they get that 1% powder. It might entail massive sacrifice and radical lifestyle alteration and it might take some time to work out the employment situation. But any one can do that... whereas to be the top of the top financially, even with all the hard work and planning in the world, there is a high degree of luck and chance involved. And for many people, the deck is stacked against them (i.e. people that were too poor to afford college, etc. not that college is a requirement for success.... but the more hurdles there are, the more reliant you are on chance, etc.).

Pretty much the only hurdle in any ones way of making all the best powder days are the decisions they make regarding their lifestyle choices. Got married? Your choice. Had kids? Your choice (and if by accident, not using protection is a choice). Want to make lots of money? Your choice. Don't want to get a job that lets you be free to ski mornings from 8a-11a mid-week? Your choice.

Not getting a multi-million dollar pay check? Well, there is a LOT of competition to crack to get into that bracket. You can't just make a simple life course adjustment to get there and luck and chance play big factors.
No, I didn't miss the point. The 1% getting more of the powder still has to be that much more determined than the 99%. If another 1% from that 99% bracket decided it was worth significant sacrifices, then the 1% already getting the powder would have to make even more drastic changes. The scales are different but the principle is the same.
 
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