Everything the Instructors Never Told You About Mogul Skiing

[jack97]

And it's neat to know why.

what I call a geekasm.

 

[awf170]

heh! this is exactly what i was worried about when i decided to use the xvid codec. this should fix it:
http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.15.0.html

Nevermind, it worked, it just took a long time.

The skiing was okay, I guess. You really should watch the way I ski and try to mimic my "technique" you could learn a few things. The first thing is that you are way to far forward, you boot shouldn't be touching the front of the boot like that.

Here is proper bump skiing technique:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puu-F4gUOFA

Anyway, nice skiing.



Also Greg. Get with the program. Xvid is the best.

 

[riverc0il]

Nevermind, it worked, it just took a long time.

hmmmm, try downloading instead of streaming next time? :razz:

marc sounds like a wookie in that vid clip you posted! "DOOOOOOOOORRRRGH"

you guys need to upgrade to either a better digi cam or better yet a digi camcorder

i am uploading the 100 Mb mpeg file for a few days for those without the codec. same link as above except replace the .avi with .mpg. should be ready to go in about 15 minutes.

 

[awf170]

hmmmm, try downloading instead of streaming next time? :razz:

Yeah oop, sorry. I try downloading first, then clicked out then tried again and didn't notice it was streaming.

marc sounds like a wookie in that vid clip you posted! "DOOOOOOOOORRRRGH"

:lol:

you guys need to upgrade to either a better digi cam or better yet a digi camcorder

It just didn't focus for some reason. Probably Marc's fault. I want a digital camcorder but I don't think I have the patient to edit a video. So I'll come see you when I want to see my faceplants in a better resolution and hear the wookie slightly better.

 

[jack97]

Don't take the WC bumper montage as literal for recreational use, I'm just pointing out how important A&E is to them and the physics behind it. BTW, I saw the freestyle coach at Okemo, lots A&E. Whether a recreational skiers wants to do that way, it's up to them.

Here's some more things to ponder (fwiw). Vid of a wc bumper doing deep squats during absorbtion, he still has good aft/for balance through out the A&E... IMO this vid is almost poetic. Another group of vids from the sunapee freestyle team, the A&E not as pronouce but is is there (the pitch is totally different). The point is A&E (not matter how pronouce it is) is important for zipperline skiing.

click on the finnish team
http://www.mogullogic.com/university.html

click on the video button
http://www.sunapeefreestyle.com/

 

[Marc]

Yeah oop, sorry. I try downloading first, then clicked out then tried again and didn't notice it was streaming.



:lol:




It just didn't focus for some reason. Probably Marc's fault. I want a digital camcorder but I don't think I have the patient to edit a video. So I'll come see you when I want to see my faceplants in a better resolution and hear the wookie slightly better.

I may or may not be technologically challenged.



And yes, Wookie is my second language. As soon as I get a capture card, we can use my old camcorder. Well, we can use it now, but I have no way to upload any vids or even convert them to digital format.

 

[JimG.]

Sniff...sniff...I smell wood burning.

I spent years coaching kids to ski bumps; probably because they are kids, I really simplified my teaching style and relied heavily on demos and then having them imitate what I did. Kids are good "doers", watching and then imitating. Stuff like this would confuse them.

But it's good for adults who have a variety of learning styles. I don't get much from it because I'm a "doer" too...just show me and I'll imitate what you do until I get it. A "feeler" (someone who actually has to be put into the proper position to feel the way they are supposed to ski) wouldn't benefit much either. But a "thinker" (someone who likes explanations and who asks alot of questions) would love this stuff.

Excuse me now, I have to put out the fire in my hair.

 

[2knees]

Ski bumps with someone who is better than you. Watch the lines they choose, how they handle things you have trouble with. Follow them. try to stay in the same line. There is no better way to pick up tips then with the naked eye. And dont be afraid to use techniques that may go against what you have heard or read. There is no one way to ski bumps correctly and unless you plan on joining the pro tour, watching competitive bumpers is fun and cool, but dont worry about emulating them. Ever seen the quads on these dudes?

Absorb, extend, slam, skid, carve, hop whatever it takes. Just pick a line and try to stay in it.

 

[Grassi21]

Ski bumps with someone who is better than you. Watch the lines they choose, how they handle things you have trouble with. Follow them. try to stay in the same line. There is no better way to pick up tips then with the naked eye. And dont be afraid to use techniques that may go against what you have heard or read. There is no one way to ski bumps correctly and unless you plan on joining the pro tour, watching competitive bumpers is fun and cool, but dont worry about emulating them. Ever seen the quads on these dudes?

Absorb, extend, slam, skid, carve, hop whatever it takes. Just pick a line and try to stay in it.

Then you better bring your A game to Sundown. I did my first bump runs ever this past Wed. at Sundown. I would ski the top part of the Exhibition bumps and then watch Greg and bvibert (no offense Paul, but you did look much much better than me by the end of the night) ski their lines. I'm really pumped to get after those bumps again.

 

[jack97]

Ever seen the quads on these dudes?

I'm more interested in seeing the quads of the females. For biomechanical and analytical purposes only, of course.

 

[Grassi21]

I'm more interested in seeing the quads of the females. For biomechanical and analytical purposes only, of course.

I was watching a vid over at Epic about Kristina Koznick training with balance balls for strength/balance stuff. Not in the nasty female body builder kind of way, but damn is that woman in sick shape.

 

[jack97]

But it's good for adults who have a variety of learning styles. I don't get much from it because I'm a "doer" too...just show me and I'll imitate what you do until I get it. A "feeler" (someone who actually has to be put into the proper position to feel the way they are supposed to ski) wouldn't benefit much either. But a "thinker" (someone who likes explanations and who asks alot of questions) would love this stuff.

Sounds like I'm a feeler, position has to feel right. The A&E has always been in the back of my mind, but I don't actually think about the physics when I hit the slopes.

Only reason why I was curious about the physics was the mis perceptions that has been carried through the years; snow friction, the frontside bump and edging plays a role but manipulation of the CM to control speed has not been talked about. I'm just pointing that out and how important it is.

 

[SkiDork]

I'm gonna be gunshy when I finally get back on the snow. I screwed up my knee a few weeks ago in big bumps at K... I've aleady been thinking about how I'm gonna handle getting back on the horse...

 

[Greg]

And dont be afraid to use techniques that may go against what you have heard or read. There is no one way to ski bumps correctly and unless you plan on joining the pro tour, watching competitive bumpers is fun and cool, but dont worry about emulating them. Ever seen the quads on these dudes?

Absorb, extend, slam, skid, carve, hop whatever it takes. Just pick a line and try to stay in it.

Right on. The goal should be to hold the line, and ski comfortably and in control and with a balanced stance. There were a few runs on Wednesday where I skied very slowly and exagerrated some of my rotary turn technique. A few other runs I let it rip.

Then you better bring your A game to Sundown.

Pat's Q game is like my A game...

 

[Paul]

Then you better bring your A game to Sundown. I did my first bump runs ever this past Wed. at Sundown. I would ski the top part of the Exhibition bumps and then watch Greg and bvibert (no offense Paul, but you did look much much better than me by the end of the night) ski their lines. I'm really pumped to get after those bumps again.

Believe me, no offense taken. It was my first real attempt as well. However, this word you keep using (better) I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[skiadikt]

I'm gonna be gunshy when I finally get back on the snow. I screwed up my knee a few weeks ago in big bumps at K... I've aleady been thinking about how I'm gonna handle getting back on the horse...

dork, i'm sure everyone with an injury goes through that. i think you might remember a few years ago when i tore my calf muscle. took me a long time before i was able to get my confidence back. positive thinking my friend ...

 

[andyzee]

dork, i'm sure everyone with an injury goes through that. i think you might remember a few years ago when i tore my calf muscle. took me a long time before i was able to get my confidence back. positive thinking my friend ...

I feel sorry for the poor horse.:razz:

 

[bvibert]

Pat's Q game is like my A game...

Give yourself a little credit Greg, it's probably more like his M game...

 

[Grassi21]

I went to my local Borders at lunch today. They didn't have the book in stock. I guess I will have to order it online.

 

[bvibert]

I went to my local Borders at lunch today. They didn't have the book in stock. I guess I will have to order it online.

I would lend you my copy, but I'm currently re-reading it...