SKI Magazine Top 10 Eastern Resorts 2011-2012

[deadheadskier]

Don't take Black Phantom's comments as rude

he's just a little 'different'

 

[Black Phantom]

again with the rudeness. Yes i drive a jeep....

Sorry if I hurt your wittle feelings. I thought you played a tough, rough and tumble Loafer 4 Life on the internet.

It is attitudes like yours that keep people from going to SL. Think that has any correlation to infrastructure improvements?

woafer4lyfeuke:

 

[2knees]

y... if you are a true hardcore skier/boarder and want to ski great challenging terrain then jay and sugarloaf are interchangeable at 1 and 2.

wrong, the true hardcore skier/boarder heads to sundown.....

 

[Tooth]

Sorry if I hurt your wittle feelings. I thought you played a tough, rough and tumble Loafer 4 Life on the internet.

It is attitudes like yours that keep people from going to SL. Think that has any correlation to infrastructure improvements?

woafer4lyfeuke:

Huh? People dont come to SL because of some attitude? I always thought it was the lifts and wind. I'd like to hear more about this "attitude"? Thanks Black Phantom.

 

[BenedictGomez]

 

[AdironRider]

Call the authorities, this ones out of control!

How long until this new SL homeboy gets all butthurt?

The loafer for life thing gets old as illustrated by LMGRNJEEP. Guy comes on, voices a biased opinion and crys about how Sugarloaf wasnt ranked. Gets called on it by numerous members here, then cries about it saying he never cared in the first place, and is dellusional about SL's faults. Blind love is not all unicorns and glitter.

Look, every mountain has its fault. Jackson doesnt have a lodge at all and has a season curtailed by lack of high dollar tourists, I mean wildlife. To go about things with a blind passion disregarding any gripe someone else might have with the place comes off as arrogant and stupid.

 

[jrmagic]

Call the authorities, this ones out of control!

How long until this new SL homeboy gets all butthurt?

The loafer for life thing gets old as illustrated by LMGRNJEEP. Guy comes on, voices a biased opinion and crys about how Sugarloaf wasnt ranked. Gets called on it by numerous members here, then cries about it saying he never cared in the first place, and is dellusional about SL's faults. Blind love is not all unicorns and glitter.

Look, every mountain has its fault. Jackson doesnt have a lodge at all and has a season curtailed by lack of high dollar tourists, I mean wildlife. To go about things with a blind passion disregarding any gripe someone else might have with the place comes off as arrogant and stupid.

No worries some just refuse to see the forest beyond the trees:flame:

 

[deadheadskier]

Huh? People dont come to SL because of some attitude? I always thought it was the lifts and wind. I'd like to hear more about this "attitude"? Thanks Black Phantom.

+1

I find the vibe from the clientele at the Loaf to be among the most laid back of any area in the east

 

[AdironRider]

I dont think anyone is really claiming the clientel of the Loaf are just like, say Killington, clientel.

But homers are going to get called out every once and a while, which is fine. Blind love of anything is something to wary of. Kinda like your thoughts on Subarus.

 

[Black Phantom]

I dont think anyone is really claiming the clientel of the Loaf are just like, say Killington, clientel.

But homers are going to get called out every once and a while, which is fine. Blind love of anything is something to wary of. Kinda like your thoughts on Subarus.

Maybe we can develop a poll that will determine who the real passionate skiers really are.

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

Maybe we can develop a poll that will determine who the real passionate skiers really are.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!:smile:

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

+1

I find the vibe from the clientele at the Loaf to be among the most laid back of any area in the east

Agreed, and unlike LMGRNJEEP, most "Sugarloafers" realize the drawbacks of SL...ie windholds, cold, far away, and lifts. "Sugarloafers" are also excited that the managment at the Loaf are trying to correct most of these issues (can't fix cold or distance/roads). And if LMGRNJEEP read into the investments that are being made, he would realize that they are not doing these improvements (wind fencing, new lifts, fixing condo's, fixing the base area) because they have money to piss away, but rather because Sugarloaf itself knows these things are negatives as well.

 

[Black Phantom]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!:smile:

 

[x10003q]

Agreed, and unlike LMGRNJEEP, most "Sugarloafers" realize the drawbacks of SL...ie windholds, cold, far away, and lifts. "Sugarloafers" are also excited that the managment at the Loaf are trying to correct most of these issues (can't fix cold or distance/roads). And if LMGRNJEEP read into the investments that are being made, he would realize that they are not doing these improvements (wind fencing, new lifts, fixing condo's, fixing the base area) because they have money to piss away, but rather because Sugarloaf itself knows these things are negatives as well.

The SL part of the thread cracked me up. 20 years ago I got to SL. It took about 8 hours from NJ including the last 90 miles of single lane frost heaves. The mountain was awesome but there were multiple wind holds during our 3 day stay. The snow conditions were ok, but it is the east. I loved the place but I have not been back since. There are too many other options that are way closer.

 

[Smellytele]

I dont think anyone is really claiming the clientel of the Loaf are just like, say Killington, clientel.

But homers are going to get called out every once and a while, which is fine. Blind love of anything is something to wary of. Kinda like your thoughts on Subarus.

All mountains do have their homers who have blind love. I remember someone similar preaching about Whiteface as well.

 

[andyzee]

I am actually from originally from NJ, living in Maine...we have place at SR...your attitude towards SL is probably one of the reasons why voters didnt vote it in. We ski a SL a number of times each year, between wind holds, broken lifts, crowds at Superquad....there are issues...as have been pointed out by other. The terrain is great indeed, but you pay the price. You have to admit it is difficult to get too, lots of days of no or limited skiing...this hurts you in the poll...plus the attitude of SL (as evident in your many posts) are offensive to many and I would bet hurt your ratings. Did I say that yet?

The comments about rich people from NY and MA and NJ shore trust funds....seriously? do you think you would have a mt if those folks didnt come and spend $$ up there? Ever been to jersey shore, NY, or even Boston....you sound like a hermit who doesnt leave SL.......and oh, your comments on Stowe note being a great mt are laughable..especially since you only skied there 2 days..hardly a sampling. The snow at Stowe blows the snow away at SL, not even in same league. Open your eyes, there is a big ski world out there...SL isnt the only ski mt in the east.

Carry on.....

Well that explains it all, your from NJ :lol:

It's all good, just ski it :beer:, who gives a rats ass what a bunch of yahoos in some ski mag vote on, this is so yesterday......

 

[xlr8r]

The surveys reward areas that are at least decent or average in each of its categories.

Just take Mad River for instance. In the top 10 category rankings it is:
1 Variety
1 Challenge
1 Overall satisfaction
1 Character
2 Value
5 Scenery
4 number 1s in the skiing categories, but mad river is prabably near the bottom for the categories that have nothing to do with actually skiing, like: On Mtn Food, Digital programs, Access, Apres, Of Hill Activities (What is the point of this category anyway???)

Whereas Tremblant's top 10s are:
6 Grooming
8 Variety
2 Lifts
1 Service
10 Weather (Are you Fing Kidding People!)
1 On Mtn Food
1 Lodging
1 Dining
2 Apres
2 Off Hill Activities
8 Family
8 Terrain Parks
9 Character (A Fake Character, or is it Disneyland)
1 Digital Programs
4 Overall Satisfaction

5 number 1s that aren't directly about skiing, but about the resort.


Smuggs is number 3 based on being average in everything. The only Top ranking it got is family.
10 Snow
10 Variety
9 Challenge
5 Value
6 Service
3 Weather
4 Lodging
4 Off Hill activities
1 Family
9 Scenery
7 Character
2 Digital Programs
5 Overall satisfaction

 

[MadPadraic]

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Here's the list:

1. Tremblant
2. Stowe
3. Smugglers Notch
4. Okemo
5. Whiteface
6. Stratton
7. Killington
8. Sunday River
9. Sugarbush
10. Bretton Woods

My original thought was that AZers are wrong about the general winter population as Stowe, Sugarbush, SR, and Smuggs are all on this list; all of these mountains have dedicated followings on here or get tons of respect.

But then I thought about who's not on here. While the SL, and Jay are obvious omissions from the hard core perspective, I can't think of a single major grooming resort that's missing. (Sunapee lacks the bed base to be considered a resort IMO.) Maybe Sneaux, but people love to talk about it's steep side.

Spillway was a freak accident it could have happened anywhere. does that mean it is not worthy of beeing one of the best resort in the east. because terrain wise it is one of the best. They are replacing the lift with a bullet proof quad which will make the skier/riders experience at the loaf 20 times better.

The data that is collected from this poll is from a bunch of wealthy intermediate skiers from where the majority of the population is in the east. NY and MA.

Sugarloaf is my favorite mountain in the East, but actually, a lift accident should send them to top ten purgatory for a while. Also, um, I'm pretty sure that a lot of the Loaf's clientele is made up for "a bunch of wealthy intermediate skiers." Well sort of, I think of SL as more of a snowboarding mountain. :argue:

NY wantabees get Ski mag as they sit in their concrete jungle

What is a NY wantabee?

 

[Smellytele]

What is a NY wantabee?

Someone who doesn't really ski that often but like to say they ski so they get the magazine and put it out for company to see.

 

[MadPadraic]

Also, Whistlers was a feeder lift from the homeowners area opposed to one of the more critical on mountain lifts like how Spillway was used. For a myriad of reasons, its tough for the common man to feel bad for a bunch of rich guys.

And it was in Canada. Once the accidents happen in the good ol USA people tend to care about it more.

Those are the three reasons that immediately pop into my head.

No, Excalibur Gondola is the main lift onto Blackcomb from the village (or maybe upper village, whistlerblackcomb.com is possibly the most useless site in internet history).

Also, Harmony had a chair fall during the night. That's a major lift and they are lucky it didn't happen during the day.

Someone who doesn't really ski that often but like to say they ski so they get the magazine and put it out for company to see.

Since we are into stereo typing. Based on my experience, New Yorkers have a much higher ratio of going out to entertaining at home than the rest of the North East. If they were to try and impress on their coffee table, it would be with sections from the Sunday times--basically the magazine and book review, and possibly the New Yorker. The Economist is too ubiquitous to have any cache. If they were going to display a ski magazine it would be something European or Powder (now that Couloir is gone).