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when will killington be sold?

highpeaksdrifter

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Of course it is Nick's decision, but it doesn't seem he wants to rock the boat too much in his first few months of ownership. Can't blame him for that. Hopefully in time he will assess the situation for himself, and proceed accordingly.

I can't blame him either, the AZ brand clearly works well. However, I don't think GSS hurt the brand I think he help it.

He was banned essentially for being insensitive about 9/11. He has bad taste, that much is clear.

That supposedly was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

I don't recall GSS insulting anyone without being insulted first. I literally used to find it comical how someone would attack him, he would respond in kind, and the mods would jump down his throat! GSS took more abuse than anyone I can recall on here and took most of it in good spirits. Like Bobbutts said, I think the only thing he took seriously was skiing.

Very true, he and I went at it quite a few times. He could take a shot, get back up and not hold a gruge.

I really don't care if GSS comes back or not, but it got particularly nasty, not just haha you're a jerk stuff. I'm just pointing out that the GSS fanboys seem to sweep that stuff under the rug whenever he comes up.

I was never a fan boy of his, but him being banned for LIFE was wrong IMO. He and others of his ilk where what got me to come to this site every single day even in the off season. I wanted to be entertained.
 

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I thought GSS was fun at times. When he attacked Greg's family facebook page with vulgarity that family members and friends view, that pretty much would get you banned from anything in life IMO.
 

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I can't blame him either, the AZ brand clearly works well. However, I don't think GSS hurt the brand I think he help it.

It's easy to say this when one does not have any "skin in the game," money invested in running this site, or sees this as a place to talk about any topic they want and in any way they want instead of serious discussions on outdoor recreation.
 

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This is the internet afterall.... if one can't handle personal insults dissed out online, they should go play in a different playground.

you could use the same logic to say if you don't like the way the privately owned website is run you can find another to go to.
 

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To be honest, forums dont work without conflicting opinions. Something I think frankly this forum lacks in droves without GSS and others who have since left.

I tend to err on the side of the underdog, and will often throw an ingnorant statement out there to stimulate discussion. You cant argue that GSS didnt spark conversation.

Moderators need to realize that this is an internet forum, not a special club just for people that agree with you. In hindsight, Im suprised I havent been banned yet.
 

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To be honest, forums dont work without conflicting opinions. Something I think frankly this forum lacks in droves without GSS and others who have since left.

Conflicting opinions are more than welcome. Debate is encouraged. There are ways of debating without acting in ways commonly found in a High School Locker room. And while you and others may not like the tone of the forums absent certain characters like GSS, there are equally as many members who prefer the forum operate without such color.

I tend to err on the side of the underdog, and will often throw an ingnorant statement out there to stimulate discussion. You cant argue that GSS didnt spark conversation.

We know you like to poke the bees nest. There's a line between trying to drum up conversation and actively trolling.

Moderators need to realize that this is an internet forum, not a special club just for people that agree with you. In hindsight, Im suprised I havent been banned yet.

It is understood, but there are rules in place that we feel are designed to make Alpinezone a welcoming place for new members eager to discuss skiing and other outdoor pursuits. So far, so good. The forum continues to attract new members all the time.

Most importantly, no matter what direction Nick takes this website, he'll never please everyone. You don't like it? So be it. He changes things more to appease you? The next guy gets pissed off. It's a no win situation really. For the most part, we're pretty tolerant and let things slide for a long, long time before either moderating a thread or telling someone to cool it. The level of tolerance is less for some then others usually due to having a history of zero respect for the rules, which means zero respect for the owner. Pretty simple
 

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It's easy to say this when one does not have any "skin in the game," money invested in running this site, or sees this as a place to talk about any topic they want and in any way they want instead of serious discussions on outdoor recreation.

Easy to say what exactly? I said the brand works as is and was implying that a new owner wouldn't want to mess with it. As far as serious discussion I have plenty of people to talk with. On forums serious is Epicski...you can pick up great info there, but I get bored with there threads after awhile.

AZ has/use to have a nice mix of ski discussion and entertaining characters.

You've always struck me as a guy who takes this stuff way too serious.
 

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Conflicting opinions are more than welcome. Debate is encouraged. There are ways of debating without acting in ways commonly found in a High School Locker room. And while you and others may not like the tone of the forums absent certain characters like GSS, there are equally as many members who prefer the forum operate without such color.



We know you like to poke the bees nest. There's a line between trying to drum up conversation and actively trolling.



It is understood, but there are rules in place that we feel are designed to make Alpinezone a welcoming place for new members eager to discuss skiing and other outdoor pursuits. So far, so good. The forum continues to attract new members all the time.

Most importantly, no matter what direction Nick takes this website, he'll never please everyone. You don't like it? So be it. He changes things more to appease you? The next guy gets pissed off. It's a no win situation really. For the most part, we're pretty tolerant and let things slide for a long, long time before either moderating a thread or telling someone to cool it. The level of tolerance is less for some then others usually due to having a history of zero respect for the rules, which means zero respect for the owner. Pretty simple

I hear you, but the whole respect thing is hogwash. This is an internet forum, Im not spitting in the owners wife's face. If people, notably moderators, are feeling "disrespected" I think that proves the point of myself and others that maybe you guys take things a bit to seriously.

AZ is still a business, and if it wasnt for us posters, no ad revenue would go to Nick, or Greg before him. Personally, I think the respect argument works better for us, rather than the moderators and owner.
 

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This is an internet forum, Im not spitting in the owners wife's face.

I said it earlier. I think people should treat others on internet forums exactly the same as they would in real life.

And there are multiple other skiing forums where you can polish your internet muscles in front of the computer screen if that's what entertains you.
 

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I said it earlier. I think people should treat others on internet forums exactly the same as they would in real life.

And there are multiple other skiing forums where you can polish your internet muscles in front of the computer screen if that's what entertains you.

Relax bud, but thank you for illustrating my point perfectly by taking my comments so seriously.

You guys can continue on thinking that the golden rule needs to be applied to the letter, but I hope you and the rest of the moderation team take note that you know, just maybe, that strategy isnt working as well as you might have thought. We are technically customers after all.
 

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AZ is still a business, and if it wasnt for us posters, no ad revenue would go to Nick, or Greg before him. Personally, I think the respect argument works better for us, rather than the moderators and owner.

There are plenty of boards with thousands if not millions of posters. However, when it comes to ad revenue, the sites that are credible and have something substantive going on are the ones that industry folks go to, network with folks on, and yes, sponsor. That's how it works.
 

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Relax bud, but thank you for illustrating my point perfectly by taking my comments so seriously.

You guys can continue on thinking that the golden rule needs to be applied to the letter, but I hope you and the rest of the moderation team take note that you know, just maybe, that strategy isnt working as well as you might have thought. We are technically customers after all.

relax?

I think you're the one taking this more seriously than the rest of us honestly. If you're so care free, then why bitch about the rules? Just go with it and if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to be a 'customer'.

In terms of how well this site works, that's for the owner to decide, not you. If he's happy, that's probably all that matters..........bud.
 
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