- Aug 6, 2009
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I read nothing in that article about skiing. Clickbait.
Why does the state operate Ski areas? They should be finically self, it defiantly would be a competitive market, and its not for public benefit any more than any other business is.
in March of 2016, the MTA sent $4.9 million to three upstate ski mountains operated by the Olympic Regional Development Authority [ORDA]. The MTA owed that money to the state, according to the governor's budget spokesperson, but was directed by Cuomo to write a check to ORDA directly.
Why does the state operate Ski areas?
why would the transit authority be told to send Belleayre, Whiteface and Gore $5 million dollars directly?
This is actually a pretty serious matter. That's scandalous.
It's what entities do when they're facing serious financial troubles, robbing Peter to pay Paul, and in my experience it is usually indicative of far more dire conditions than said entity will publicly reveal and/or is generally publicly known.
What makes this even more curious, is that the MTA is also in pretty dire financial shape, so from that perspective, it's odd. In fact, that State Senator's explanation might hold water given how strange this is. From an accounting perspective, it might be a way for New York State to conceal how much taxpayer money its' truly spending by transferring money directly from one public-benefit corporation to another public-benefit corporation. I'd love to see how they're accounting for that transactionally on the books, because I smell a rotting fish here. I believe they're likely recording it as a transfer rather than an expense. Just my WAG (wild azz guess).
Over in NH Cannon Mtn is owned and operated by the state and I feel like they do a nice job
That is correct.They have the benefit of getting money from the lease of Sunapee I believe.
They shouldn't. It's a taxpayer money-draining hole, and it hurts the non-government players.
Imagine how much more successful Plattekill could be if their neighbor Bellayre wasn't constantly sucking off the government teat of life support?
Imagine how much more amazing Whiteface could be if it wasn't government run? Whiteface is a gem that's being operated like a low-grade piece of coal.
Imagine what would be possible at Gore if it wasnt government run? That place could also be a gem, IMO, some of the best tree skiing in the east.
I go back and forth on state run ski areas. While the private sector is much more aggressive in expansion and upgrades, the ski industry is extremely volatile. NYC places strange limits on its ski areas though especially, like the trail limits that are completely arbitrary. I would also like to ski Whiteface under private ownership.
Not sure it really is robbing Peter to pay Paul because if the MTA did truly owe money to the State coffers and the State did truly owe the 3 ski areas the same amount then it wouldn't be. But if this wasn't the case then that is a totally different story and it would be scandalous as you note.
I would also like to ski Whiteface under private ownership.
What's kind of interesting is that you look at VT and the perception is that it is the state of tree huggers and a difficult development environment. The reality is that NY, NH and ME all have been more restrictive over time in ski area development. This isn't just true of generations past, but with modern projects as well.Aren't all three of the NYS ski areas in "forever wild" Forest Preserve areas? If so, privatizing them would require NYS constitutional amendments. Chances of that happening are slim to none. I'm not convinced any of these resorts would be better off under private ownership. Isn't NYS investing close to $30M between these 3 resorts this year on capital improvements? Granted I think the Gondola at Belleayre is a gigantic waste, but you can't say NYS isn't spending money on their resorts.
Some of the proposed ski areas you see on nelsap would have been incredible if they ever came to be.
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