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The Official 4/12 Storm Discussion Thread

powderfreak

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*First off, my terms (and these are generally accepted) and associated possible snowfall are the following...
Light = 1-4"
Moderate = 4-8"
Significant = 8" or greater

WED NIGHT-FRIDAY
Short Version...Low pressure tracks along the SNE coast and ENE into the
Gulf of Maine providing a period of accumulating snows late Wednesday night
into Thursday afternoon. Amounts in the Champlain valley look similar to
the last event, and amounts in the mountains are currently looking like
6-12" before the upslope machine gets turned on for Thursday night and
Friday...totaling a potential, lets call it 8-16" from Killington northward,
by Saturday starting bell.

Discussion...
The models are converging on a track that takes a primary low up towards
northern Illinois and Indiana. However, with the upper level H5 low cutting
off in this region, the jet stream tightens as it is forced south of this
feature. Once it gets past the upper level low, the jet stream winds
diverge which will cause surface air to rise into the void left by the upper
level divergence. The net result is another surface low spawns somewhere in
the mid-Atlantic and likely tracks near the SNE coastline, ENE, into the
Gulf of ME. We are again left in the cold sector to the north of the track
(actually, significant snow is possible as far south as I-90 in the
Berkshires and northern Catskills). With liquid amounts ranging from over
1" as far north as Burlington and points NE on the NAM (snow graphic gives
VT a general 6-12" on this model, with a little more along the spine), to
around a half inch on the GFS, we should see some accumulating snow even in
the Champlain Valley. The model output on both American models yields all
snow for the North Country and snow above 1,000ft down in the
Catskills/Berkshires/SVT. The EURO, UKMET, and Canadian are all roughly in
accordance with this solution so confidence is growing for at least a
moderate event (widespread 4"+) with significant amounts (8"+) along the
Green Mountain Spine and eastward. Looks similar in some regards to the
last system except the upslope snowfall in VT will only last one day instead
of four. Needless to say, if it snows 4-8" between 3am-3pm Thursday in the
Greens and then upslope takes over late on Thursday, well into Friday, we
could see amounts of over a foot by Saturday morning at the resorts.

Certainly will not be like this last snowfall event, but another foot with
no real warm-up before it means the snowpack will continue to grow through
the end of the week. I'll try to nail down other regions in the upcoming day but I think its safe to say the White Mtn resorts up through Sunday River and Sugarloaf will get into the 6-12 inch range. I've been very encouraged by the past 4-6 model runs
on this one.

-Scott

ps: Now, a quick summary of the past 6 days at the Mount Mansfield
stake...remember these are 24 hour measurements and the NWS does four, 6-hr
totals and adds them together. I bet had this taken place at the BTV
airport, the number would probably be over 40" measuring that way and not
allowing for any April settling.

Wed...3.0"
Thur...10.0"
Fri...7.5"
Sat...1.0"
Sun...8.0"
Mon...5.0"
Total...34.5"

Not bad. This morning it is lightly snowing in Burlington (flurries) but
looks like it could still be accumulating in the northern Greens. That
train of snow showers is aimed right at Smugglers Notch and some of the
heavier showers have been tracking right over RT 108 in the Notch (road west
of the 'M' in Morrisville near the county line, for the out of staters).
http://tinyurl.com/2ccjfo
 

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You make me so......VERY happy.
A foot of snow for my next 3 days off.
I feel like a kid on Christmass, except it light out 'till 7.
More.....pow....coming...
Must....keep......skiing.
ps....add another 5-6" for mansfield last night.
 

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You make me so......VERY happy.
A foot of snow for my next 3 days off.
I feel like a kid on Christmass, except it light out 'till 7.
More.....pow....coming...
Must....keep......skiing.
ps....add another 5-6" for mansfield last night.

A few of my buddies hit the Rock Garden yesterday and said they might as well have been skiing a bowl out at Alta. Deep, deep turns in the backcountry around Mansfield.
 

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You rock Scott! I'll be up at the Bush Friday, and maybe Saturday. May go meet some friends at K Saturday - that Sunshine Daydream and all............looks like I'll be all set no matter what!
 

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You rock Scott! I'll be up at the Bush Friday, and maybe Saturday.

You have no understanding of exactly how jealous I am. Hit Rumble and Mall this time...
 

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scott any idea about sunday? noaa is calling for some rain, would you agree with that?
 

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You have no understanding of exactly how jealous I am. Hit Rumble and Mall this time...

The Mall and Rumble will be at the top of the list in the morning! I agree with Andy to get your butt up there. (But the wife must be kept happy - you seem to have a good thing going here). We'll probably be calling KingM up!
It's amazing how euphoric I still am about Friday at MRG. That video is the bomb! No one around here can beleive the snow and terrain at MRG, or the great work you did on the video!
 

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The Mall and Rumble will be at the top of the list in the morning! I agree with Andy to get your butt up there. (But the wife must be kept happy - you seem to have a good thing going here). We'll probably be calling KingM up!
It's amazing how euphoric I still am about Friday at MRG. That video is the bomb! No one around here can beleive the snow and terrain at MRG, or the great work you did on the video!

Nice! Rumble is an experience. Enjoy it!

Glad you enjoyed the vid. Did Chris ever see it? When is he going to log in here? ;)
 

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scott any idea about sunday? noaa is calling for some rain, would you agree with that?

I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Next system will be moving in but I think that one could start as snow/sleet sometime during Sunday but I wouldn't go changing any plans.
 

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I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Next system will be moving in but I think that one could start as snow/sleet sometime during Sunday but I wouldn't go changing any plans.

Thoughts on the Northern Berks, Jiminy specifically?
 

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I wouldn't worry about it at this point. Next system will be moving in but I think that one could start as snow/sleet sometime during Sunday but I wouldn't go changing any plans.


I see that NOAA is cutting back the amount of snow that would fall in interior Maine on thursday/friday to 1-5", do you agree with that?

Could Sugarloaf/Saddleback stay all snow from the second storm over the weekend?

Thanks
 

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Jiminy

The website says they will be open Thu through Sun. They expect between five and nine inches.

Last Saturday conditions were outstanding in the morning. Good in the pm too.

Any forecast for Whiteface? I've got passes.
 

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Last Saturday conditions were outstanding in the morning. Good in the pm too.

Last Saturday as in 3 days ago? I was there on April 1 and there were nice bumps on the Foxes, right under the Q1 (on the ungroomed of Whitetail) and okay bumps on Cutter. Were those all still there on Saturday?
 

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Saturday April 7th

Cutter never opened because it did not soften up enough. The trail report did say it would be open.

The moguls on the foxes were also a little scratchy in between the bumps. There was nice snow on the tops and right along the tree line. They gotta trim the low haning branches.

We rode the berm and ungroomed on skiers left on Whitetail in the afternoon and it softened up some but not a lot.

There was enough new snow on the groomed portions that it was a lot of fun. Also, it was sunnier in the morning.

All those spots you mentioned should soften up nicely after the snowfall and temps rise.
 

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Cutter never opened because it did not soften up enough. The trail report did say it would be open.

The moguls on the foxes were also a little scratchy in between the bumps. There was nice snow on the tops and right along the tree line. They gotta trim the low haning branches.

We rode the berm and ungroomed on skiers left on Whitetail in the afternoon and it softened up some but not a lot.

There was enough new snow on the groomed portions that it was a lot of fun. Also, it was sunnier in the morning.

All those spots you mentioned should soften up nicely after the snowfall and temps rise.
Thanks. I won't be clicking in until probably 1:30-ish on Friday so hopefully that means more sun, warmer temps and rad bumps on Friday afternoon! :cool:
 

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God...what a crazy season. I have to ask? Is the best april anybody can remember?
It's as good as the mid winter can hope to be. From mid. jan to now it has been amazing.
I 'm so sad school is busy right now. Anybody want to bluebook my note so I can go skiing?
no? Damn.
Nice weather report.
 
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