Newpylong
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Hawk
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If I really wanted to ski I would just go out to California and visit friends at Palasades or Alpine. Seriously, if you have to ski dirt, grass and rocks or walk, it's not worth it to me. I have done plenty of that through the years. No need to now.
There is also so much snow all over the west that the back country is limitless right now. Some of the videos are epic.
There is also so much snow all over the west that the back country is limitless right now. Some of the videos are epic.
ss20
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Year round skiing this summer in Utah is 100% certain now that June has/will continue to be abnormally cold.
abc
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I don’t do it any more. But I used to do it. It’s fun in its own way. No different than picking my way around rocks and cliffs out west. It’s the hunt that’s the fun.
But then again, I’m a mountain biker. So finding my line when there doesn’t seem to have a clear path is the kind of stuff that makes the outing “fun”. I guess that carries over to skiing through dirt and grass.
When I’m on my road bike, I like roads that are silky smooth. But that can get old if it’s the only roads I ride on. Kind of like carving freshly groomed runs in the morning. Enjoyable but don’t feel like doing only it day in and day out. So when I take my mountain bike out, the last thing I want to ride is smooth trails. I WANT obstacles!
SkiingInABlueDream
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Sounds like you haven't discovered flow trails yet.
abc
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“Flow” is good. But without obstacles? It’s not mountain biking!
Go to Moab and tell me about “flow”.
If I can do it on a cross bike, it’s not mountain biking.
SkiingInABlueDream
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Sounds like you haven't discovered how to properly ride flow trails yet.
Smellytele
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Or a gravel/cyclocross bike …
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These were not dated but are closing day in either '97 or '98. Gives you a an
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That’s exactly what I said. That’s NOT mountain biking!
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abc
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Which part of OBSTACLE did you not get!
Better yet, show me a smooth trail in Moab, with obstacles.
Then tell me about “flow”.
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STREETSKIER
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I’ll tell you about flow
Sherburner trail kmbc
Sherburner trail kmbc
Smellytele
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That is not what I am saying - I am saying you don't do it properly. I can pretty much ride most mountain bike trails with my cyclocross (gravel) bike. Getting air not so much but don't on my Mtn bike either (or skis).
jimmywilson69
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BUT you don't have a suspension and a heavy bike, so it CAN"T be MTB
I'm with you. I ride my gravel bike on some single track MTB trails. Obviously the less technical ones.
I'm with you. I ride my gravel bike on some single track MTB trails. Obviously the less technical ones.
SkiingInABlueDream
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Of course I know what obstabcles are. Im a mtn biker who rides tech most of the time. You don't what flow means. Flow trails are bike trails that are generally smooth but have turns, usually bermed, and often jumps and/or drops. The trail is designed to be ridden at certain speed, usually fast, at which speed the rider "flows" through all the features. And while the jumps and drops on many flow trails have B lines that make it possible to "ride" (in a vague sense) the trail on a drop bar bike, it's a given that you wont be taking the turns as fast (or enjoyably) as you would on even a hard tail mtn bike (that's a segue to geo) and jumps/drops dont even enter the picture unless you enjoy OTB'ing. All of which circles back to my original point, you're not really "riding" flow trails on a drop bar bike.Which part of OBSTACLE did you not get!
Better yet, show me a smooth trail in Moab, with obstacles.
Then tell me about “flow”.
abc
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Yep!
Except those “obviously, less technical” ones.
Plus, roots and rocks.
This insistent on SMOOTH, combined with suspension, had basically dumb down trail riding to ”point and shoot”, not too different from road riding!
In a time when road riders are seeking the variation of NOT SMOOTH surface by venturing onto gravel and even single tracks, mountain biking community‘s insistence of SMOOTH SURFACE is such a sell out. Too many “features” in mountain bike trails had been “smoothed out” in favor of “flow”!
Grooming out them moguls!
Hawk
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I ride the North Shore of Boston. Lynn Woods, Harold Parker, the Fells and All over Manchester, Gloucester and Rockport. I have also rode at Moab, Purg and Fruita. It does not have the vertical that out west has but pound for pound it is WAY more technical and knarly in a genreal sence. You can always find crazy trail anywhere you go but all the general trails, especially Lynn, are complete cover with rocks, roots and drops.
SkiingInABlueDream
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@abc OMG even when the point is spoon fed to you you manage to either miss or sidestep it. Ok just carry on, you're unfixable
Edit. And I'm well aware this was a small drop compared to the efforts others have made in the past
Edit. And I'm well aware this was a small drop compared to the efforts others have made in the past
I don't see a problem with offering both. I'd argue that the push for smooth, flowing, gravel trails is in response to road biking becoming far more dangerous than ever before. Gravel riding allows for the more low impact, aerobic workout riding that road bikers are looking for, but in a safer fashion. Dedicated asphalt bike trails are crazy expensive to build and maintain.
In 2023 I find road biking nuts. FAR too many distracted drivers to worry about compared to the pre cellphone era. I'm glad I live in a neighborhood that most people drive 20mph or less. Makes me less worried about my kids riding their bikes. But I always tell them to suspect every car they see has a distracted driver.
In 2023 I find road biking nuts. FAR too many distracted drivers to worry about compared to the pre cellphone era. I'm glad I live in a neighborhood that most people drive 20mph or less. Makes me less worried about my kids riding their bikes. But I always tell them to suspect every car they see has a distracted driver.
