The NFL 2007 Season thread

[ALLSKIING]

The Pats are just stupid good...unreal

 

[JimG.]

If they weren't so damned good they would be boring to watch.

I've watched football in earnest for 40 years and I've never seen a QB play like Brady is.

 

[drjeff]

actually i dont recall this many games with 10+ point spreads ever in 1 weeks time. where did the parity go?


New England -21.5 to Philly
Dallas -14 to Jets
Indy -12 to Atlanta
Arizona -10 to SF
Pitt -16 to Mia

If the Steelers loose this game (out right, not on the cover), steeler fans should be required to turn in their terrible towels after the game next Monday night.

Plus, if the Pats are still this healthy and rolling in a few weeks, might the spread for the Dolphins and Jets games be approaching or exceeding 4 TD's

 

[Mildcat]

When I mention this to non Patriot fans they get visibly angry. Moves like that are the reason the Patriots are and will be successful.

Another fabulous win last night. I seriously was worried about it being a "trap" game and all that but the Patriots continue to defy logic. Next up we got the Eagles, with a banged up Donovan McNabb. The Eagles (and Eagle fans) were questioning the legitimacy of the Super Bowl victory after the whole "spygate" nonsense. I'm sure Bill B and the Patriots are well aware of that and use that as motivation this week.

Just curious, If you're from PA. how did you become a Pats fan?

actually i dont recall this many games with 10+ point spreads ever in 1 weeks time. where did the parity go?

New England -21.5 to Philly
Dallas -14 to Jets
Indy -12 to Atlanta
Arizona -10 to SF
Pitt -16 to Mia

How bad are the 49ers to be a 10 point underdog to Arizona? And we have their first pick. :razz:

If the Steelers loose this game (out right, not on the cover), steeler fans should be required to turn in their terrible towels after the game next Monday night.

Plus, if the Pats are still this healthy and rolling in a few weeks, might the spread for the Dolphins and Jets games be approaching or exceeding 4 TD's

I think the spread on those two games will be a few points less than the over under line. That's almost unheard of (if it happens).

 

[jack97]

I've watched football in earnest for 40 years and I've never seen a QB play like Brady is.

Once he retires he's a guarantee first ballot hall of famer. This year just shows how great he is. He made his former receivers like patten, givens and branch look good, that crew basically had ok season in new teams but not the production they had with brady. Also, they way he made the last drive during his first sb as a first yr starter.... that does not happen in the nfl.

 

[drjeff]

Once he retires he's a guarantee first ballot hall of famer. This year just shows how great he is. He made his former receivers like patten, givens and branch look good, that crew basically had ok season in new teams but not the production they had with brady. Also, they way he made the last drive during his first sb as a first yr starter.... that does not happen in the nfl.

Especially if you ask John Madden

 

[2knees]

If the Steelers loose this game (out right, not on the cover), steeler fans should be required to turn in their terrible towels after the game next Monday night.

If the steelers lose this game, watch the 6:00 news. You'll hear about a jumper on the charter oak bridge.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

The Steelers are not as good as people think they are, their 3 loses are to far less superior teams. I look at it like this, take Indy out of the mix and look what the Pats did to the Jets and Browns, the Steelers just barely beat the Browns last week at home and lost to the Jets, the Pats games were never even close.

 

[jack97]

The Steelers are not as good as people think they are, their 3 loses are to far less superior teams. I look at it like this, take Indy out of the mix and look what the Pats did to the Jets and Browns, the Steelers just barely beat the Browns last week at home and lost to the Jets, the Pats games were never even close.

Patriots offense line has always had trouble with a fast front seven. Indy was probally the fastest and given they play tampa 2, they were prob the only defense that would have given them trouble.

Steelers don't seem to have the speed and they make up for that by scheming with the zone blitz. It's seem that the Steelers can get into good streaks, but once opposing coaches study more film, they can find the tendencies to neutralize the schemes. IMO, that 's why they are struggling right know.

 

[2knees]

The Steelers are not as good as people think they are, their 3 loses are to far less superior teams. I look at it like this, take Indy out of the mix and look what the Pats did to the Jets and Browns, the Steelers just barely beat the Browns last week at home and lost to the Jets, the Pats games were never even close.

In all fairness, the only reason the browns game was close was because of Cribbs. He returned one kick for a touchdown and another to the 4 yard line. Browns didnt even have a first down in the 2nd half until there was 1:00 to play.

 

[PA Ridge Racer]

Just curious, If you're from PA. how did you become a Pats fan?

I really don't know. Ever since I was a kid I was drawn to the Patriots. I remember rooting for Tony Eason and the Pats vs. the Bears in the Super Bowl when I was maybe 7. IDK, maybe it's because I've always loved early US history...so why not have my favorite football team be the "Patriots". Whatever the case it stuck. For me, America's team is / was / should be the Patriots, not the Cowboys. As a teenager (around the start of the Bob Kraft / Drew Bledsoe era) The Patriots became a passion. This week's game has a little extra meaning because I get to talk it up with friends / family (mostly Eagle fans). Plus the stares are great when I walk around with my Brady Jersey on :razz:

 

[Mike P.]

I always hated the Cowboys so whoever was going to beat them I cheered for along with the Pat's & Giants. So I've also liked the Steelers & 49'ers. My wife went to High School with Romanowski & he is a local guy.

 

[Paul]

I really don't know. Ever since I was a kid I was drawn to the Patriots. I remember rooting for Tony Eason and the Pats vs. the Bears in the Super Bowl when I was maybe 7. IDK, maybe it's because I've always loved early US history...so why not have my favorite football team be the "Patriots". Whatever the case it stuck. For me, America's team is / was / should be the Patriots, not the Cowboys. As a teenager (around the start of the Bob Kraft / Drew Bledsoe era) The Patriots became a passion. This week's game has a little extra meaning because I get to talk it up with friends / family (mostly Eagle fans). Plus the stares are great when I walk around with my Brady Jersey on :razz:

That's funny, I'm from NE, and I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Iggles fan. Growing-up, I despised Grogan, Eason et al... Nuthin' but disappointments, and their stadium was named for one of the crappiest beers around. Actually, I also couldn't stand the Raiders, for some reason. Maybe it was a feeling of pity I had toward my hometeam (that I thought were a buncha bums) after Jack Tatum paralyzed Daryl Stingley. I remember watching the Raiders/Eagles in the Superbowl, and decided to root for the underdog. It was then that I started watching Jaws, and Harold Carmichael and Wilbert Montgomery. And hey, the Eagle was the symbol of the U.S.... I went to College in Philly (Drexel) when Randall Cunningham and Keith Byers and Mike Quick were there, along with the Gang Green Defense: Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown, Seth Joyner, Eric Allen, Wes Hopkins and Andre "Dirty" Waters.
That did it. It was a really strange, pathetic experience being both an Iggles and a Red Sox fan. Thank God for the Sox in '04 and '07, otherwise I'd have to hang onto 1918, and 1960. uke:

 

[Paul]

I always hated the Cowboys so whoever was going to beat them I cheered for along with the Pat's & Giants. So I've also liked the Steelers & 49'ers. My wife went to High School with Romanowski & he is a local guy.

Rockville High, eh? I had a good friend who went to Enfield, and had to play against him. Said he was a dirty S.O.B. even then...

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

That's funny, I'm from NE, and I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Iggles fan. Growing-up, I despised Grogan, Eason et al... Nuthin' but disappointments, and their stadium was named for one of the crappiest beers around. Actually, I also couldn't stand the Raiders, for some reason. Maybe it was a feeling of pity I had toward my hometeam (that I thought were a buncha bums) after Jack Tatum paralyzed Daryl Stingley. I remember watching the Raiders/Eagles in the Superbowl, and decided to root for the underdog. It was then that I started watching Jaws, and Harold Carmichael and Wilbert Montgomery. And hey, the Eagle was the symbol of the U.S.... I went to College in Philly (Drexel) when Randall Cunningham and Keith Byers and Mike Quick were there, along with the Gang Green Defense: Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown, Seth Joyner, Eric Allen, Wes Hopkins and Andre "Dirty" Waters.
That did it. It was a really strange, pathetic experience being both an Iggles and a Red Sox fan. Thank God for the Sox in '04 and '07, otherwise I'd have to hang onto 1918, and 1960. uke:

Im just curious as an Eagles fan you in the last 10yrs have the 2nd most wins regular and postseason in the NFL only to the Pats, the Eagles are a proud franchise how do you feel after hearing that about getting 22 points this week? Just curious.

 

[Paul]

Im just curious as an Eagles fan you in the last 10yrs have the 2nd most wins regular and postseason in the NFL only to the Pats, the Eagles are a proud franchise how do you feel after hearing that about getting 22 points this week? Just curious.

I think its entirely deserved. There's 2 ways to look at it:
1. The Iggles have been playing erratically, there really seems to be no rhyme or reason to their record. They've beaten, or kept it close to some pretty good teams, they've barely squeaked-by or just lost to some atrocious teams, they've won when they "shouldn't have" and lost when they "shouldn't have" Andy's play-calling has swung from odd to mysterious to bizarre to just plain close-your-eyes awful. McNabb has an ankle sprain now on top of a re-built acl that is nowhere near healed. It just makes no sense having a 65/35 pass/run ratio with a QB with a bad wheel and Brian Westbrook in the backfield. I'd be amazed to see the Igs score more than 10, and that's including garbage time when the Pats will have scored over 50 on our lousy D. Spikes is done, the other 2 LBs are rookies, Mikell is hurt, Dawkins is with Spikes on the other side of the hill, Kearse is miles beyond them....
Bleah!
2. Vegas has to do something drastic to get any money at all against the Pats. Seriously, its like betting against the house this season. With that said, an extremely unlikely Eagles victory would be really interesting in betting circles...

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

I think its entirely deserved. There's 2 ways to look at it:
1. The Iggles have been playing erratically, there really seems to be no rhyme or reason to their record. They've beaten, or kept it close to some pretty good teams, they've barely squeaked-by or just lost to some atrocious teams, they've won when they "shouldn't have" and lost when they "shouldn't have" Andy's play-calling has swung from odd to mysterious to bizarre to just plain close-your-eyes awful. McNabb has an ankle sprain now on top of a re-built acl that is nowhere near healed. It just makes no sense having a 65/35 pass/run ratio with a QB with a bad wheel and Brian Westbrook in the backfield. I'd be amazed to see the Igs score more than 10, and that's including garbage time when the Pats will have scored over 50 on our lousy D. Spikes is done, the other 2 LBs are rookies, Mikell is hurt, Dawkins is with Spikes on the other side of the hill, Kearse is miles beyond them....
Bleah!
2. Vegas has to do something drastic to get any money at all against the Pats. Seriously, its like betting against the house this season. With that said, an extremely unlikely Eagles victory would be really interesting in betting circles...

What im waiting for is the Pats Vs the Jets again, the team that started this whole controversy, im thinking they will be getting anywhere from 28-30points which is just amazing this day in age.

 

[Rushski]

What im waiting for is the Pats Vs the Jets again, the team that started this whole controversy, im thinking they will be getting anywhere from 28-30points which is just amazing this day in age.

Also can't wait to see the beating they throw on the hapless Dolphins, while loudmouth Shula watches...

 

[Mike P.]

They had a guy from Vegas on EEI a couple of days ago & he did all odds fro the regular season & the Super Bowl & the Jet's game was a 1/2 point more than the Miami game.

 

[FRITOLAYGUY]

Well all i have to say is the NFL games today pretty much all sucked, at least the first half of the USC ASU college game was entertaining until it sucked too lol