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Snowmaking underway at Killington

tcharron

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Ok, let's get some perspective here, and I can't believe I'm doing this, but not only will I defend Killington, but I'll say they got some class. First, what does Sunday River really have, a little strip of snow open. Mount Snow, a freaking Bunny Hill :daffy: Give me a break, the things people do just to say the''re first and get publicity, can you say Woodbury? At least Killington will not open until they have a decent product to offer, top to bottom skiing. Yes, I know I want off on them, it was out of frustration after getting my hopes up. Today I hiked up Killinton, and I bet they have a lot more snow and terrain then Sunday River, but they also have, here I go again, shoot me, class. Take a look at the pic I took today, can you say whales?

Not sure how you possibly consider it class. Pretty sure you'd feel different if you actually ran into anyone on the mountain, and they chased you down threatening to call the police.
 

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I know. But this way when they are able to blow the lower mountain, they'll probably have 5 trails open up top, and can expand to either the Canyon or Snowdon basically immediately. You know, open more than the hated WROD.

Yeah, if their strategy is to open lots of trails but open late, then I guess there's some sense to it. But with their early marketing effort to promote the snowmaking and Beast moniker, it seemed like they wanted to compete to open early. Since they have no mid-mountain downloading capability, and apparently no desire to build it, it seems like lining a top to bottom trail with modern fanguns might be their best route to early season skiing.
 

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The only reason Killington was not opening this weekend was economics.

It was more than that. On Wednesday morning, the weather models for the Sunday/Monday nor'easter were all over the place. Some models showed 2" of liquid at Killington. Others showed that it might spit a little with the storm tracking off Cape Cod. The Burlington NWS pretty much said they didn't have a clue. It would have been kind of stupid to blow all that snow, have one day of skiing on Saturday, and have it all wash away on Sunday/Monday.

Killington also had heavy equipment up on the hill working on installing a new fan gun. I doubt they wanted to blow snow on top of a back hoe trying to get some pre-season work done. Who knows if they had a staffing issue. I know they changed software for ticketing and that delayed getting season passes in the mail as they were sorting out kinks in the new system. It appeared to be functional for Brewfest but they haven't used it to sell day tickets yet.

So I figure it was a combination of their conservative operating style, iffy weather, and simply not being ready to go.
 

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It was more than that. On Wednesday morning, the weather models for the Sunday/Monday nor'easter were all over the place. Some models showed 2" of liquid at Killington. Others showed that it might spit a little with the storm tracking off Cape Cod. The Burlington NWS pretty much said they didn't have a clue. It would have been kind of stupid to blow all that snow, have one day of skiing on Saturday, and have it all wash away on Sunday/Monday.

Killington also had heavy equipment up on the hill working on installing a new fan gun. I doubt they wanted to blow snow on top of a back hoe trying to get some pre-season work done. Who knows if they had a staffing issue. I know they changed software for ticketing and that delayed getting season passes in the mail as they were sorting out kinks in the new system. It appeared to be functional for Brewfest but they haven't used it to sell day tickets yet.

So I figure it was a combination of their conservative operating style, iffy weather, and simply not being ready to go.

incorrect.
 

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Hmmmm, looks like Gillette stadium has more snow on it than the lower slopes of Killington. Something's not right here...
 

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Ok, let's get some perspective here, and I can't believe I'm doing this, but not only will I defend Killington, but I'll say they got some class. First, what does Sunday River really have, a little strip of snow open. Mount Snow, a freaking Bunny Hill :daffy: Give me a break, the things people do just to say the''re first and get publicity, can you say Woodbury? At least Killington will not open until they have a decent product to offer, top to bottom skiing. Yes, I know I want off on them, it was out of frustration after getting my hopes up. Today I hiked up Killinton, and I bet they have a lot more snow and terrain then Sunday River, but they also have, here I go again, shoot me, class. Take a look at the pic I took today, can you say whales?

then by your logic, all those years of killington opening in october dont count. You surely remember skiing off the double down the little green trail to upper cascade. not more then 500 vert at best with little pitch. that shouldnt count and therefor you shouldnt get your panties in a bunch over this whole thing.


The world according to zee.

give me a break andy.
 

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Nobody can blow their entire mountain at once, by building up their opening terrain up top they'll be able to expand much quicker when they do open. Pretty simple, actually.

All that K would need to do to ensure that their early season limiting factor (air capacity) is a non issue with the current opening trail layout is line their route down Snowdon, atleast the lower 1/2, if not all the way with fan guns. Won't use ANY of the air from the main compressors, generally works a bit more efficiently in marginal temps, AND they could under most snowmaking windows, blow snow over the entire T2B route. That would be a sign that the Beast of The East was really ready to roar again. Might cost them a million or so to do it, but it would be a sign of the willingness tobring back the Beast!

Frankly, I want to see K back as the Beast of The East, because when K is "roaring" that generally speaking makes the rest of the competition elevate their game, and that's a good thing!
 

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Ok, let's get some perspective here, and I can't believe I'm doing this, but not only will I defend Killington, but I'll say they got some class. First, what does Sunday River really have, a little strip of snow open. Mount Snow, a freaking Bunny Hill :daffy: Give me a break, the things people do just to say the''re first and get publicity, can you say Woodbury? At least Killington will not open until they have a decent product to offer, top to bottom skiing. Yes, I know I want off on them, it was out of frustration after getting my hopes up. Today I hiked up Killinton, and I bet they have a lot more snow and terrain then Sunday River, but they also have, here I go again, shoot me, class. Take a look at the pic I took today, can you say whales?



You can't comment really unless you were at Sunday River bud. They were top to bottom with mid winter conditions up top Sunday. Top to bottom late Sat afternoon.
It was not a fuke ovening it was good on Sunday. Friday was a novelty for me, got wet had a blast early sesaon. Standard early season conditions. Sunday was good.

I can see you not blaming Killington, but Sunday River was in good shape and I would have been Happy with what we had in November.
 

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Upper T2 is a pretty good run. I'll take it over anything off the North Ridge Triple at Killington, except maybe Ridge Run, which doesn't have snow making. I doubt a WROD is even possible off a fixed grip triple. Was it a publicity stunt? Of course. It's all about marketing. That doesn't make it a bad thing, customers obviously were happy with the experience. Win-Win.
 

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Ok, let's get some perspective here, and I can't believe I'm doing this, but not only will I defend Killington, but I'll say they got some class. First, what does Sunday River really have, a little strip of snow open. Mount Snow, a freaking Bunny Hill :daffy: Give me a break, the things people do just to say the''re first and get publicity, can you say Woodbury? At least Killington will not open until they have a decent product to offer, top to bottom skiing. Yes, I know I want off on them, it was out of frustration after getting my hopes up. Today I hiked up Killinton, and I bet they have a lot more snow and terrain then Sunday River, but they also have, here I go again, shoot me, class. Take a look at the pic I took today, can you say whales?

What? I skied Sunday River on Friday and the conditions were excellent. T2 may only be around 600 vertical feet, but it is a fairly wide trail with decent pitch. And it was absolutely BURIED on Friday, no little strip of snow. They shut off the guns around noon, the snow was soft, and there were great bump lines forming. Yeah, the terrain was limited, but it was October 16th after all! The quality of the skiing was top notch though, for any time of the year. Not to mention they were close to top to bottom, and actually opened top to bottom on Saturday.

If you somehow respect Killington for not opening, or you feel that is a sign of class, your certainly entitled to that. However, I seriously question your assesement of the conditions at Sunday River. WROD is not for everyone, and apparently not for you. However, many of us were out skiing at Sunday River this weekend, having a great time, and getting our season started long before any other mountain in the East opens. To all of the critics, don't go!
 

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Ok, let's get some perspective here, and I can't believe I'm doing this, but not only will I defend Killington, but I'll say they got some class. First, what does Sunday River really have, a little strip of snow open. Mount Snow, a freaking Bunny Hill :daffy: Give me a break, the things people do just to say the''re first and get publicity, can you say Woodbury? At least Killington will not open until they have a decent product to offer, top to bottom skiing. Yes, I know I want off on them, it was out of frustration after getting my hopes up. Today I hiked up Killinton, and I bet they have a lot more snow and terrain then Sunday River, but they also have, here I go again, shoot me, class. Take a look at the pic I took today, can you say whales?

weren't you the one with the killington r.i.p. thing bemoaning the death of the old killington. well a big part of that old killington was opening a short upper mtn trail in early october. suddenly that doesn't count for you. weren't you the one with the careful what you wish for thing regarding powdr. now powdr who you've slammed for the last 2 years is suddenly doing the right thing by promising a a quality product t-t-b skiing and sunday river, taking a page out of the old killington playbook is resorting to cheap pr tricks. don't think k's insistence on this quality t-t-b opening springs from any great concern for the customer, class or moral high road, it's an EXCUSE because they can't or just plain won't blow the snow necessary to open.
 
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