Eastern Olympic Venues other than Whiteface

[Angus]

I disagree.
Having Tucks as part of a downhill course uses up too much vert too quickly. IMHO the best place to have a course would be here...


This location almost parallels the Auto Road and is fairly wind sheltered. It covers roughly 3000 ft of vert and has some nice variation in the terrain (i.e. headwalls and such to launch off of).

Problem solved!! Let The Games Begin!!!

 

[MadPadraic]

I disagree.
Having Tucks as part of a downhill course uses up too much vert too quickly. IMHO the best place to have a course would be here...

This location almost parallels the Auto Road and is fairly wind sheltered. It covers roughly 3000 ft of vert and has some nice variation in the terrain (i.e. headwalls and such to launch off of).

You kill it so much even Dan Egan couldn't improve on this post.

 

[Nick]

Winning

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[skiersleft]

I disagree.
Having Tucks as part of a downhill course uses up too much vert too quickly. IMHO the best place to have a course would be here...

This location almost parallels the Auto Road and is fairly wind sheltered. It covers roughly 3000 ft of vert and has some nice variation in the terrain (i.e. headwalls and such to launch off of).

Forget the Olympics. We should have a ski resort there. Seriously, why don't we?

 

[jimmywilson69]

Forget the Olympics. We should have a ski resort there. Seriously, why don't we?

Tree Huggers

 

[from_the_NEK]

This course would be 3% steeper overall than Whiteface, and with about 340' more of vert to boot.
Couple this with the fact that Slalom and Giant Slalom can be held directly across the road at Wildcat and you got a real contender.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Here is the view from Wildcat.

 

[skiersleft]

This course would be 3% steeper overall than Whiteface, and with about 340' more of vert to boot.
Couple this with the fact that Slalom and Giant Slalom can be held directly across the road at Wildcat and you got a real contender.

So, I assume this would be the Boston Winter Olympics, right? Most events held in Boston, with skiing in Wildcat and Mount Washington about 3:20 mins away, right? Not bad.

Frankly, sounds easier than Quebec. At least Mount Washington easily has the required vertical. And you can use wildcat for the other events.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Boston or Quebec City.
Although it is around a 5 hour drive from QC (it is still over an hour less than drive to the Gaspe). In the QC senario important people/athletes could probably commute by helicopter which would drop the commute time down to about 1 hr.

 

[Nick]

But can I traverse to Tucks?

 

[skiersleft]

Boston or Quebec City.
Although it is around a 5 hour drive from QC (it is still over an hour less than drive to the Gaspe). In the QC senario important people/athletes could probably commute by helicopter which would drop the commute time down to about 1 hr.

If we're cutting a trail down Mount Washington, I want the olympics to be in the US of A. So, my vote is for Boston over QC. And it's closer.

 

[Puck it]

I think Dan Egan would slay that course. Just sayin'.

 

[from_the_NEK]

I think Dan Egan would slay that course. Just sayin'.

I was thinking he could be hired to escavate the trail. No dynamite needed. Just strap some diamond edged skis on his feet and let him lose on the hill before there is snow on it. Oula! A perfect downhill course left behind.

 

[MadPadraic]

Coworkers today were talking about a potential HSR link between Boston and Montreal with a stop in Montpelier. Use Stowe and Jay and it will work nicely. Also, VT is generally more open about infrastructure upgrades and trying to help out their population than NH.

The garden, agganis, and matthews could all be used for the city events (are the winter olympics as crazy about building new facilities as the summer games)?

 

[BenedictGomez]

Coworkers today were talking about a potential HSR link between Boston and Montreal with a stop in Montpelier.

Cant see that happening for political, financial, and practical reasons.

Politics - Would set up a divisive political battle between two left-wing elements, the Pro-train (and Union) folk + the Pro-environmental folk (of which there are MANY in MA, NH, and VT).

Finance - We dont have the money on a Federal level or the State level for this (Vermont sure as heck doesnt).

Practical - Honestly? It's a pretty terrible idea that would be economically unsustainable for numerous reasons, not the least of which is, dramatically insufficient ridership.

It's just not going to happen.

 

[MadPadraic]

Cant see that happening for political, financial, and practical reasons.

Politics - Would set up a divisive political battle between two left-wing elements, the Pro-train (and Union) folk + the Pro-environmental folk (of which there are MANY in MA, NH, and VT).

Finance - We dont have the money on a Federal level or the State level for this (Vermont sure as heck doesnt).

Practical - Honestly? It's a pretty terrible idea that would be economically unsustainable for numerous reasons, not the least of which is, dramatically insufficient ridership.

It's just not going to happen.

I doubt it will happen either. In fact NH killed the earlier proposal. Since we were dreaming about the olympics, it is fair enough to dream about the big infrastructure upgrades that tend to come with them (e.g. SLC's light rail, BC's Highway 99, London's gondola, etc).

In my experience, Pro-environmental folk tend to view trains in a favorable light, and tracks already exist (but would obviously need upgrading). I disagree on the ability for the federal government to pay for it, but we are getting into politics, so I won't comment further.

As far as practical, I don't know for sure that demand would be high enough, but rail competes very well with air travel in the DC to Boston corridor despite the presence of very good air links between the 4 (6 if you count PVD and BAL) major cities, which isn't present here.

I also, I want to commute to a ski condo by train.

 

[AdironRider]

Who honestly needs to stop in Montpelier?

 

[MadPadraic]

33 minutes by car from stowe according to the google, but Burlington would be a better stop (there should be only 1 in northern vt).

 

[from_the_NEK]

Who honestly needs to stop in Montpelier?

Politicians...

 

[BenedictGomez]

As far as practical, I don't know for sure that demand would be high enough, but rail competes very well with air travel in the DC to Boston corridor despite the presence of very good air links between the 4 (6 if you count PVD and BAL) major cities, which isn't present here.

There would be virtually no sustainable demand for Boston to Montreal, certainly not anything that could justify the considerable expense of ongoing operations.

As for the "success" of the "DC to Boston corridor" via rail? It's a complete myth. It's one of those things that gets repeated so often that people (and I mean probably nearly everyone) believe it's true. But if you actually look into the financials I think you'd be absolutely shocked (and possibly aghast).

It loses tons of $$$$ and only survives via government assistance, the taxpayer pumps $$$ into it to keep it alive. For whatever reason, this isnt publicized (at all), so people generally dont realize how much $$$$ AMTRAK etc loses.

Who honestly needs to stop in Montpelier?

It's funny cause' it's true! (I loffed).