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[abc]

It takes 2, or even 3 things, put together to discourage Canadian from coming over.

The exchange rate has been at the current level for ages. But the Canadian economy is pretty shaky, and the reason of the shakiness has everything to do with Trump’s tariff threats.

If you’re a Canadian, how do you feel like spending big when your job isn’t secure? And do you want to spend your money that you may need if you get laid off? Especially if the reason of your losing your job could be because the orange man raising the tariff on what you’re making…

It’s not ”political”. As the saying goes, “it’s the economy, stupid”.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Currently .70, was .69 on Jan 16 2016. Pretty flat since mid-year 2015.

This is not flat, it's about a 7%'ish to 19%'ish variance from the mean or the peak depending on when you take it.

That's meaningful, especially in light of the fact the Canadian economy is not well.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Ok, so Jay is $799.00. Any takers?

Only if I lived in n.VT, maybe Saint Albans or so & points north.

 

[TyWebb]

It takes 2, or even 3 things, put together to discourage Canadian from coming over.

The exchange rate has been at the current level for ages. But the Canadian economy is pretty shaky, and the reason of the shakiness has everything to do with Trump’s tariff threats.

If you’re a Canadian, how do you feel like spending big when your job isn’t secure? And do you want to spend your money that you may need if you get laid off? Especially if the reason of your losing your job could be because the orange man raising the tariff on what you’re making…

It’s not ”political”. As the saying goes, “it’s the economy, stupid”.

This is a very naive post. Their economy wasn't humming and thn suddenly two months ago became "pretty shaky." Canadien economy has been shit for a while now for various reasons.

 

[jaytrem]

This is not flat, it's about a 7%'ish to 19%'ish variance from the mean or the peak depending on when you take it.

That's meaningful, especially in light of the fact the Canadian economy is not well.

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That's a cherry picked graph to suit your argument. Post a 30 year and then tell me the last 10 years haven't been relatively flat. Your portion of the 30 year is like the end of a roller coaster, yeah you got some ups and downs, but compared to the earlier part of the ride, it's pretty flat.

 

[AdironRider]

The timeframe of the graph doesn’t matter, the CA dollar is crap compared to the USD and their economy is in the tank. Jay is smart to take their currency at par, even though it means they are barely netting 500 dollars per pass for a 2k vert hill.

On the plus side, Bonnie gets replaced this year with a high speed six. Game changer operationally and I think you will see a lot fewer “wind holds”.

 

[deadheadskier]

Has Bonnie announcement been made official? Excellent news if so and something much more interesting to talk about on a skiing message board than exchange rates and international economics.

 

[jimmywilson69]

Bonnie 6 is not currently on liftblog for 2025 or 2026

 

[machski]

Has Bonnie announcement been made official? Excellent news if so and something much more interesting to talk about on a skiing message board than exchange rates and international economics.

I don't think they have put the order in yet. LiftBlog doesn't show a Jay install currently for this or even next summer.

 

[BenedictGomez]

That's a cherry picked graph to suit your argument.

I "picked" a 2015 start because it is literally the year that you mentored in your post.

And if I zoomed out longer it would just make your position look worse as this is the weakest CAD has been in 22 years.

 

[thetrailboss]

Bonnie 6 is not currently on liftblog for 2025 or 2026

Damn. I was pretty sure this was the year.

 

[jaytrem]

I "picked" a 2015 start because it is literally the year that you mentored in your post.

And if I zoomed out longer it would just make your position look worse as this is the weakest CAD has been in 22 years

Of course if you zoom in the graph appears less flat, that's the way graphs work. You know that, you're not stupid. If you zoom out, it makes from 2015 to the present look pretty flat. Do you really disagree with that? It's pretty much been hanging out between .70 and .80 for that whole time. Flat flat flatity flat fact. Maybe we just disagree on what flat is. From a historical standpoint, my opinion is the last 10 years have been flat. Can you run your variance numbers for the prior 10 years so we can compare?

With your pearl clutching bold print you make it sound like it hasn't hit .70 in the last 22 years. It did in both 2015 and 2020. Wake me up when it hits .60 and I'll start booking hotels for next year.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Of course if you zoom in the graph appears less flat, that's the way graphs work. You know that, you're not stupid. If you zoom out, it makes from 2015 to the present look pretty flat. Do you really disagree with that?

Even if you only take the last 10 years as you're suggesting (which I'd argue is flawed to begin with as opposed to a more historical context), and draw a mean line through it, it's about a 10% variance. That's not insignificant to Canadian families who were already "splurging" by paying more for everything in America. There comes a psychological point in buyer behavior where people say, "no mas" - I'd say this is close to that point. Especially when you combine this data with the knowledge that the Canadian economy is doing poorly right now. Not everything is as simple as, "Orange Man bad".

 

[takeahike46er]

Make no mistake about it—Canadians are pissed. In my time living in both countries, the last time I’ve seen so much unity amongst citizens was in the US after 9/11. Now, it’s the Canadians who are united and motivated.

You can cite the exchange rate as a driver in those declines all you want, but that has been unfavorable for quite some time now. People here are sending a message with their wallets. They’re shifting alway from US products where possible and seeking alternative travel destinations to the US.

How this impacts Jay Peak’s business, I haven’t a clue. I’m in BC after all. Anecdotally, I know I won’t be doing any day trips to Mt. Baker for a while. I know I’m not the only one.

 

[deadheadskier]

This poutine plate is getting cold and soggy. Can we move on?

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i just bought my new pivots from a canadian shop (corbetts). great deal for me and happy to support canadian businesses

 

[abc]

Move on to what? Vail sucks?

 

[abc]

i just bought my new pivots from a canadian shop (corbetts). great deal for me and happy to support canadian businesses

Since we’re on the subject, anyone bought hard goods in Canada? Is it really cheaper up there?

I go north of border frequently (biking/kayaking/skiing). But haven’t looked into buying any sporting equipment from up there. I keep hearing it’s cheaper. But I can’t quite understand why. It’s not like that many products are made in Canada after all.

Last summer, my kayak buddy had to replace her waterproof camera while up there. She bought a gopro. It worked out similar cost as buying it down here.

 

[deadheadskier]

The last set of skis I bought were last summer from Corbett's in Canada. They were cheaper than any US online retailer.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Since we’re on the subject, anyone bought hard goods in Canada? Is it really cheaper up there?

I go north of border frequently (biking/kayaking/skiing). But haven’t looked into buying any sporting equipment from up there. I keep hearing it’s cheaper. But I can’t quite understand why. It’s not like that many products are made in Canada after all.

Last summer, my kayak buddy had to replace her waterproof camera while up there. She bought a gopro. It worked out similar cost as buying it down here.

pivot 14s came out to 190 taxed and shipped. pivot 12s came out to 150. i have never seen look pivots under $200 at a us retailer in my life.