Best trail for each rating

[thetrailboss]

That's a good point...when did they start calling them double blacks...used to be just green, blue, black...as I recall...

Green - Toll road
Blue - Who Cares...ok Obsession...wait..that's black
Black - Nobody mentions the front 4?

What ski areas are you talking about?

Not to get really off track, but what do y'all think of Smugg's "Triple Black Diamond" run? Bunch of crap if you ask me...keep it simple--three or four symbols. Some places, like Wah-Wah, even have black within blue runs :-?

 

[Brettski]

I thought there was only 1 toll road

Who Cares is not a trail..it's "Who Cares"..ok, pick any top to botton trail at the river...on one of the newer mountains...

The Front four...you're kidding right....

 

[thetrailboss]

I thought there was only 1 toll road

Who Cares is not a trail..it's "Who Cares"..ok, pick any top to botton trail at the river...on one of the newer mountains...

The Front four...you're kidding right....

Front Four is Stowe, obviously. :wink:

There are several Toll Road Trails...Stowe, Burke, etc.

 

[Brettski]

Never been to Burke...

The only Toll Road I know is at Stowe...

First trail I skied on in Vermont

It's been a long time

How many people does the Stowe Gondola fit. I can't remember...

Anyone remember the old gondola at stowe, or the old one at kmart?

 

[JimG.]

There is no such thing as "double black" here in the east, at least not in any lift serviced areas.

I think that a double black ought to be reserved for something steep enough so you have to initiate your turn from the uphill ski and clear good 5-6 feet of air as you making your turn. I'm talking about a consitent steep pitch not just an occassional jump from a boulder or a frozen waterfall.

I'm going to have to disagree here. Goat and Lookout at Stowe are as difficult as any double blacks I've skied in Colorado - and I've been to every ski area in that state searching out the most difficult terrain with the exceptions of Teluride, Crested Butte and Wolf Creek

I agree with deadheadskier, but I won't mention any specific trails. Bottom line is this...Bumpsis mentions steeps and airtime out west, yet never mentions snow quality. It's alot easier to air into a steep chute when there's nice fluffy snow, or at least packed powder with NO ice to land on.

I go out west and am amazed at the conditions people out there consider too crappy to ski. One patch of ice on the whole mountain and it's bar time. I've also seen westerners who rip up anything out west come east and flail trying to ski icy single blacks.

What the east may lack in terrain it makes up for with difficult snow conditions. To master east coast conditions no matter what takes a true expert.

 

[thetrailboss]

What the east may lack in terrain it makes up for with difficult snow conditions. To master east coast conditions no matter what takes a true expert.

As the old saying goes, "if you can ski here you can ski anywhere!"

 

[Brettski]

So where does Bode hail from?

 

[takeahike46er]

I must also give props to The Rumor, SKI Mags best bump run in the east.

 

[Brettski]

A New Hampshire boy...

http://www.bodemillerusa.com/BodeMiller.html

 

[awf170]

There is no such thing as "double black" here in the east, at least not in any lift serviced areas.

I think that a double black ought to be reserved for something steep enough so you have to initiate your turn from the uphill ski and clear good 5-6 feet of air as you making your turn. I'm talking about a consitent steep pitch not just an occassional jump from a boulder or a frozen waterfall.

I'm going to have to disagree here. Goat and Lookout at Stowe are as difficult as any double blacks I've skied in Colorado - and I've been to every ski area in that state searching out the most difficult terrain with the exceptions of Teluride, Crested Butte and Wolf Creek

I agree with deadheadskier, but I won't mention any specific trails. Bottom line is this...Bumpsis mentions steeps and airtime out west, yet never mentions snow quality. It's alot easier to air into a steep chute when there's nice fluffy snow, or at least packed powder with NO ice to land on.

I go out west and am amazed at the conditions people out there consider too crappy to ski. One patch of ice on the whole mountain and it's bar time. I've also seen westerners who rip up anything out west come east and flail trying to ski icy single blacks.

What the east may lack in terrain it makes up for with difficult snow conditions. To master east coast conditions no matter what takes a true expert.

i agree, after skiing about all of the hardest terrian at snowbird and alta(except for a few sick chutes) i came home and first run i went and did hairball at wildcat and it was harder then anything i did out there. Even though it only has a small drop(like 3-5 ft depending where you go off) you land on moguls and ice, way skiing then the extremely steep things out west. If it had plently of snow it wouldnt be that hard but thats the fun of the east

 

[skibum1321]

How many people does the Stowe Gondola fit. I can't remember...

The gondola fits 8

As for the best trails:
Black - The Mall at Sugarbush, Paradise at MRG
Double Black - Rumble and LiftLine at Sugarbush, LiftLine and Freefall at Smuggs, Goat at Stowe