Buying 2007 Ski Gear?

[Hawkshot99]

I plan on getting some new skis this year. I am gonna get the K2 Public Enemy's, with some rossi axial bindings. Skiid them last year and loved the ski.

If I can swing it I also want to pick up a pair of the Rossi Mutix 11's(think that is teh name). Skiid them last spring and loved them. They were great for high speed sweepers, but very good on the short quick turns.

 

[riverc0il]

oops, steep and cheap just suckered me into buying a pair of crampons at half price :lol:

 

[bvibert]

oops, steep and cheap just suckered me into buying a pair of crampons at half price :lol:

Those looked like a good deal, I considered it but I don't think I would have gotten much use out of them...

 

[thetrailboss]

oops, steep and cheap just suckered me into buying a pair of crampons at half price :lol:

Hey Riv--my Steep and Cheap does not list crampons, but these, which is an unusual pair of crampons...unless you like Women's long underwear :wink: :

I assume you got the crampons yesterday???

 

[bvibert]

I assume you got the crampons yesterday???

Actually, two days ago:
http://www.steepandcheap.com/steepcheap/forum.html?bboard_id=1000466&id=WRuWfkLi

 

[awf170]

oops, steep and cheap just suckered me into buying a pair of crampons at half price :lol:

Have you ever used crampons before? Now with that and an ice axe next season you may have hope of beating me up to the the top of the lip.:razz: I was thinking about it, but then realized that I would some how manage to kill myself. Me+sharp pointy objects=no good.

 

[riverc0il]

this will be first use. haven't looked into ice ax yet. not planning on getting too much use out of them. my thoughts are that if i really "need" crampons to make it up something, i probably won't be climbing it to begin with. just a little insurance on days when it is a little firmer than my preferences and i would like a little extra safety precaution. would like to have them for stuff like oakes and GG when i get my climbing stamina and nerve up a bit more.

 

[awf170]

this will be first use. haven't looked into ice ax yet. not planning on getting too much use out of them. my thoughts are that if i really "need" crampons to make it up something, i probably won't be climbing it to begin with. just a little insurance on days when it is a little firmer than my preferences and i would like a little extra safety precaution. would like to have them for stuff like oakes and GG when i get my climbing stamina and nerve up a bit more.

Not sure if you know this. But you need an ice axe. Hiking with crampons and no ice axe is pretty much the most dangerious thing you can do.

 

[riverc0il]

good to know. i hadn't had the chance to read up on safe travel practices yet which i had planned to do. definitely wasn't going to just strap them on without acquiring some knowledge and practicing safe travel in non-dangerous areas. will look into an ax.

 

[awf170]

good to know. i hadn't had the chance to read up on safe travel practices yet which i had planned to do. definitely wasn't going to just strap them on without acquiring some knowledge and practicing safe travel in non-dangerous areas. will look into an ax.

If you fall with an ice axe you can easily catch yourself. Without you will slide until a crampon point catches an edge, then your knee will be gone. I think DMC was with someone over at T4T would did this and luckily didn't get really hurt.

 

[JimG.]

If you fall with an ice axe you can easily catch yourself. Without you will slide until a crampon point catches an edge, then your knee will be gone. I think DMC was with someone over at T4T would did this and luckily didn't get really hurt.

I don't use crampons when there are alot of folks in the bootpack. I've seen a few people come skidding down the bootpack after losing it, feet and crampons first. If you hit somebody they're going to get really hurt. If it's crowded, chances are you don't need them.

I have also seen ice axes swinging around people as they descend, and saw one guy almost impale himself after falling. Make sure your pack has a bonafide ice ax holder. But using an ice ax with the crampons is a best travel practice. Whippets on your poles (this is my preference) would suffice also, as long as you have something at hand to help self-arrest.

Tux accident reports are filled with tweaked knees as a result of catching crampons after a fall.

 

[awf170]

I don't use crampons when there are alot of folks in the bootpack. I've seen a few people come skidding down the bootpack after losing it, feet and crampons first. If you hit somebody they're going to get really hurt. If it's crowded, chances are you don't need them.

I have also seen ice axes swinging around people as they descend, and saw one guy almost impale himself after falling. Make sure your pack has a bonafide ice ax holder. But using an ice ax with the crampons is a best travel practice. Whippets on your poles (this is my preference) would suffice also, as long as you have something at hand to help self-arrest.

Tux accident reports are filled with tweaked knees as a result of catching crampons after a fall.

Yep, carrying ice axes and crampons in my bag scare me. Maybe next year I'll get two whippet for going up stuff like Tucks, then I should be all set. If you can't easily get up with that then it is probably to icy to ski. But then again I heard that with crampons you can fly up way faster than in the bootpack. I need more experiance before I make any sort of judgements.

 

[JimG.]

If you can't easily get up with that then it is probably to icy to ski. But then again I heard that with crampons you can fly up way faster than in the bootpack. I need more experiance before I make any sort of judgements.

Frankly, I got crampons for downhiking trails like the TRT when it's snowy and/or icy. I learned my lesson years ago when I downhiked from Hojo's with a 70 lbs pack and no crampons on an icy TRT...sliding out of control downhill with a big pack on was no fun, nor was falling on my back and then feeling like a helpless turtle trying to get up.

 

[riverc0il]

i had looked at Whippets previously and have been considering them. jimg, they work well for you? i was concerned about quality, just hard to believe they could really do much but certainly better than nothing!

 

[JimG.]

i had looked at Whippets previously and have been considering them. jimg, they work well for you? i was concerned about quality, just hard to believe they could really do much but certainly better than nothing!

Other than mellow practice slides using them to self-arrest (they worked just fine), I've never had the need to really test them. Hope I never do!

They seemed to work fine like I said, and they're easier and safer (in my opinion) than an ice ax.

 

[bigbog]

06/07 gear.....

Yes...a few skis to check out....a Head(iM72), couple of those new Nordicas(SM14.2/Mach3) for certain. Hope either the Loaf or SRiver stocks a few moderately fats for demo on that eagerly anticipated NE powder day ...or should I be so bold... :lol: