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Curious what skiing and dogs have to do with leasing. I lesae my wife a car---we have 2 dogs and we both ski.
Mileage and wear and tear would be my guess...

I put too many miles on a car to make leasing worthwhile. In addition, I've had a few cars where the repair bills started to climb several years after they were paid off. It's real nice when you are in that situation.
 

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We buy extra miles, plus now Acura gives you up to 7500 miles grace if you lease another, so it works for us. I am also a nut about how I keep my cars, so on my last two lease trade/turn ins, I actually made money. Different things work for different people!
 

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Curious what skiing and dogs have to do with leasing. I lesae my wife a car---we have 2 dogs and we both ski.
Skiing has to do with driving LOTS of miles every year. Dogs has to do with a crazy dog that sheds and claws at the windows and chews things to pieces. Both of which might increase end of lease penalties. You run your shop and lease, you might not have to worry about that sort of thing. ;)

FWIW.... 15k in a year is my minimum...
 

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Skiing has to do with driving LOTS of miles every year. Dogs has to do with a crazy dog that sheds and claws at the windows and chews things to pieces. Both of which might increase end of lease penalties. You run your shop and lease, you might not have to worry about that sort of thing. ;)

FWIW.... 15k in a year is my minimum...

That's what I thought....If your driving between 15-18k/yr leasing still could be a great option for you. The only down side to that kind of milage in a lease is that you will need to put tires on the vehicle adding to your "total cost of ownership", but still could work good for you when it comes to "dollars and cents".

As for your dog chewing stuff....DO NOT LEASE :lol:

p.s. the dealer has NO input when it comes to a lease turn-in.....it's between the leasee and the lessor....the dealer is out of the loop, so I get no special treatment when it comes time for turning in my wifes lease.
 

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That's what I thought....If your driving between 15-18k/yr leasing still could be a great option for you. The only down side to that kind of milage in a lease is that you will need to put tires on the vehicle adding to your "total cost of ownership", but still could work good for you when it comes to "dollars and cents".
Well, I will have to look into the option if the only downside is putting tires on because I would swap out for snow tires during the winter so the regular tires wouldn't receive even half of the total miles since most of my miles happen October through May. We can always buy the dog wagon for S and lease me a nice car. :spin: Surprised to hear that leases go for up to 18k/year :eek: That cost extra? That is 54k total in 3 years. Doesn't sound like the dealership would make out of that type of deal if it is the same lease rate as a 15k max/year (a total of 9k less).
 

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Well, I will have to look into the option if the only downside is putting tires on because I would swap out for snow tires during the winter so the regular tires wouldn't receive even half of the total miles since most of my miles happen October through May. We can always buy the dog wagon for S and lease me a nice car. :spin: Surprised to hear that leases go for up to 18k/year :eek: That cost extra? That is 54k total in 3 years. Doesn't sound like the dealership would make out of that type of deal if it is the same lease rate as a 15k max/year (a total of 9k less).

Yes, leases (for the most part) can be written for any milage, and yes, the payment is reflective of the "allowable milage/year"...so a 18k/ year lease payment might be 10 bucks more/ month than a 15k/yr lease, just as a 10k/yr lease wouldl be 18/mo less than a 15k/yr.

As for the dealer all a "lease" is is another avenue of selling a car to someone....that's it. There's no more profit in a lease or a purchase deal....just different ways to sell cars.
 

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I just hit 150k on my 2003 Saab. It's starting to make wierd noises but it's paid off & I don't wanna buy another car.
 

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I just hit 150k on my 2003 Saab. It's starting to make wierd noises but it's paid off & I don't wanna buy another car.
I'll be adding a car payment in a year or two...car being replaced is at 192K and will be handed down to the new driver in the house. It was nice not having that payment for several years.
 

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Wife's 2002 mitsubishi lancer went in the shop this afternoon for a check engine light. Fingers crossed it's not something expensive.

And no, we didn't leave the gas cap off ;)
 

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I just changed the oil in my dakota today, i had heard people raving about a product called sea foam that removes gunk and other buildup in the engine. I put a half a pint in with my oil about 100 miles ago. hope i notice a differance. has anyone ever heard of or used sea foam?
 

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Wife's 2002 mitsubishi lancer went in the shop this afternoon for a check engine light. Fingers crossed it's not something expensive.

And no, we didn't leave the gas cap off ;)
We have a CEL on our Toyota...came up as a Catalytic Converter so I've been putting off the repairs, but when I took it in for inspection the codes were different. Need to get it to a mechanic to figure it all out but we're also hoping it won't be too much to fix.
 

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I just changed the oil in my dakota today, i had heard people raving about a product called sea foam that removes gunk and other buildup in the engine. I put a half a pint in with my oil about 100 miles ago. hope i notice a differance. has anyone ever heard of or used sea foam?

I've never used it in the oil, but from what I've read, it'll clean out sludge and deposits. I've used it in the gastank...and it works great. I use it in the vehicles every so often. Where it really shines, is power equipment. I put a bit in my 5 gallon gas jug every time I fill it up. Well, not always SeaFoam...the cheaper stuff..Berryman Chemtool. Allegedly, they're pretty similar. The Berryman + some StaBil does wonders. It keeps the gas from varnishing up and the carb passages nice and clean. I don't drain the gas from my power equipment over the winter and it fires right up in the spring. I pulled my chains saw out of the shed in VT a few weeks ago...started right up.
 

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I just changed the oil in my dakota today, i had heard people raving about a product called sea foam that removes gunk and other buildup in the engine. I put a half a pint in with my oil about 100 miles ago. hope i notice a differance. has anyone ever heard of or used sea foam?

What I always hear from good indy mechanics: If you use a good synthetic oil for the life of the car and change it when you're supposed to, you don't get sludge buildup. Unless I'm getting blowby on the valves and rings, there's no way I'd ever consider adding anything to my engine oil.

I'd think you would see more of a difference using something like that as a fuel treatment. You would likely see some gains by cleaning out your intake system.

If I were doing that on an older car, I'd change the oil, replace all the filters, and clean the plugs after a couple of tanks of fuel. No telling what goo you'll end up with in your fuel and oil filters.

Beware that anything that causes 'gunk' to get burned can cause your oxygen sensor to fail.
 

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Riding the gravy train on the 03 civic. 197,000 miles. Put some tires and brakes of 20,000 miles ago. I'm not doing anything else other than change the oil for the rest of it's life. Someone offered me cash yesterday for this car-very tempted to sell. I need something newer and maybe even awd for Utah.


Any ideas on a good economical 4wd or awd car that is also reliable? No frills is fine.
 

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I just changed the oil in my dakota today, i had heard people raving about a product called sea foam that removes gunk and other buildup in the engine. I put a half a pint in with my oil about 100 miles ago. hope i notice a differance. has anyone ever heard of or used sea foam?
Yes, but thats not how you use it....
 

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I think I'd double over laughing if a mechanic recommended sea foam for my car. Sounds like a treatment my wife would get at a Spa, not an engine treatment. :lol:
 
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