Eastern Olympic Venues other than Whiteface

[ScottySkis]

Scotty, Bearpen maxs out at 1750 of Vert. Not gonna happen there. In fact there is no where in the Catskills that would reach 2600 feet of vert without a <b>very</b> long flat runnout. Not even Slide, Cornell, Wittenburg, or Hunter (from teh actual peak) can get there.

I thought it was bigger, just ashame that we could be skiing and snowboarding their this winter if they still had financial backing, why cant 10000 rich people invest into bearpen sorry for putting in this thread.

 

[steamboat1]

The top of Le Massif's downhill run could easily be added to.

The mound pictured is man made.

 

[St. Bear]

The USOC is pretty adamant about getting NYC an Olympics, and they know that the Winter Games are a little less competitive than the Summer. One of the crazy ideas that has been tossed around is a split Olympics with NY and Montreal, but I think it's been scrapped for a Seattle/Vancouver push.

 

[Puck it]

The USOC is pretty adamant about getting NYC an Olympics, and they know that the Winter Games are a little less competitive than the Summer. One of the crazy ideas that has been tossed around is a split Olympics with NY and Montreal, but I think it's been scrapped for a Seattle/Vancouver push.

I heard of the NYC talk about the winter games with LP hosting the on snow events and NYC do the other evetns. This was also talked about for Boston with the NH and VT getting the on snow events.

 

[St. Bear]

I heard of the NYC talk about the winter games with LP hosting the on snow events and NYC do the other evetns. This was also talked about for Boston with the NH and VT getting the on snow events.

I've heard about those proposals too, but according to Wikipedia it looks like they're concentrating on a summer Olympics for NYC. Personally, if they're going to ram NY down our throats, I think a split host makes a lot of sense. The full Olympics in NYC would be a nightmare. The one that I haven't seen, and I don't understand why not because there's no way I'm the first to think about it, is a NY/Phila split. Phila has the country's best velodrome and world class swimming facilities, NYC is NYC, and there's the whole of Jersey in the middle.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Lake Placid to Montreal = 112 mi
Lake Placid to NYC = 293 mi

The international Olympics sounds better to me.

The Boston option would be hard to pull off due to the lack of an existing 2600' vert steep ski run in either VT, NH, or ME. A new facility (see what they are building in S Korea for 2018 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungbong) would be the only option here. The nearest generally north facing slope that could support a fairly steep 2600 ft vert run is Mt Blue in Kinsman Notch (Just north of Moosilauke). Then there are problems with going above treeline (i.e. Franconia Ridge, Mt, Washington etc) if you try to go that route too.

 

[loafasaur]

Narrow Gauge at Sugarloaf is FIS certified for all alpine events. There was the fabled 3 days in Feb. 1971 when the Loaf hosted back-to-back downhills and a GS for both men and women in 3 days. It was a lean snow year in Europe. There was fantasy about hosting the Olympics up there around the time of the Bigelow development proposal. A lot of people smoked pretty good stuff in them days. It ain't happening.

A few months back I saw a proposal in the Boston Globe for a Boston-based Olympics with alpine events in NH and VT. The article claimed it was much like Vancouver in terms of distance/time between venues. Killington was touted for downhill. I haven't skied K much but have the impression that they would have to scramble to find enough continuous vertical. Stowe would be interesting, and no doubt controversial.

 

[St. Bear]

Stowe would be interesting, and no doubt controversial.

Have the starthouse at the top of the Chin, and they can get 3,000 of vertical.

 

[marcski]

Older audio clip:

http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categori...s/quebec-citys-removable-ski-hill-mocked.html

Newer Backcountry.com article:

http://www.backcountrymagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=601&Itemid=52

 

[from_the_NEK]

Killington Peak does not have a chance to reach 2600 with any consistant slope.

Actually, Ascutney can squeeze out 2580' of vert off of its north peak if you cross route 44 and go all the way down into the Mill Brook valley :-o.

 

[St. Bear]

Killington Peak does not have a chance to reach 2600 with any consistant slope.

Actually, Ascutney can squeeze out 2580' of vert off of its north peak if you cross route 44 and go all the way down into the river valley :-o.

Mt. Ellen, by the skin of her teeth.

 

[snowmonster]

If it does come back to the States, it'll be out West. If I were to bet, it would be Vail.

I hear that the IOC is still pissed off about Denver giving up the Winter Olympics slot in 1976. I know that's a lifetime ago but these organizations have long memories.

Stowe would be interesting, and no doubt controversial.

Just curious: why would Stowe be controversial? Deer Valley hosted the aerial events in '02. The Deer Valley of the east should be able to do the same.=)

 

[jaytrem]

I hear that the IOC is still pissed off about Denver giving up the Winter Olympics slot in 1976. I know that's a lifetime ago but these organizations have long memories.

Way off topic here, but I remember hearing something about no Colorado skier ever winning a gold medal in skiing. 1976 curse? Not sure if it's still true or even was at the time I heard it. Can anybody think of a Colorado born skier (or snowboarder) who has won a gold?

 

[AdironRider]

I hear that the IOC is still pissed off about Denver giving up the Winter Olympics slot in 1976. I know that's a lifetime ago but these organizations have long memories.



Just curious: why would Stowe be controversial? Deer Valley hosted the aerial events in '02. The Deer Valley of the east should be able to do the same.=)

Ive heard about the Denver thing, but not enough to really comment with conviction. Wouldn't suprise me though. Tough to be taken seriously when you pass on something like the Olympics.

Given the way this thread has gone, it seems pretty clear Whiteface is the only venue in the East that could even think about hosting. Anything that requires flat runnouts or building mounds, etc is going to be a non starter. The IOC isnt going to take that seriously.

 

[St. Bear]

Given the way this thread has gone, it seems pretty clear Whiteface is the only venue in the East that could even think about hosting. Anything that requires flat runnouts or building mounds, etc is going to be a non starter. The IOC isnt going to take that seriously.

I think Sugarloaf is an interesting option. It's remoteness would make it a terrible choice for the Olympics, but I think the mountain fits the requirements.

 

[from_the_NEK]

I think Sugarloaf is an interesting option. It's remoteness would make it a terrible choice for the Olympics, but I think the mountain fits the requirements.

As stated, it won't work there. Summit to the Main Lodge is 2400 at the most'. The last 400 of which are roughly 15% slope. Then if you go below the lodge it only gets flatter.

 

[deadheadskier]

The IOC isnt going to take that seriously.

well, that is until the anti is upped on the bribes......

 

[St. Bear]

well, that is until the anti is upped on the bribes......

Given their track record, I'm surprised the IOC hasn't awarded a Winter Olympics to Dubai yet.

 

[EPB]

The latest I heard about the olymics in QC was back in the fall and I can't find the newspaper article, though I believe it was in Le Soleil around October. Mad Pad has an article in french that could easily be translated that has some good info on the mountain: http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/quebec-et-les-jeux-olympiques/ . It looks like hes got a few potential sites in Gaspe that have been discussed in the QC press before. In addition, I've also heard that creating a structure similar to a 120M long jump ramp on top of the existing downhill course would do the trick....

The only other Eastern option that I haven't heard mentioned is the possibility of using Wildcat A (or maybe B, whichever is the tallest at ~4,400 feet). Of course, it would be a regulatory nightmare getting a lift/downhill trail built there. But, that would open up Boston as an option for the games. I would personally prefer this because it could provoke NH to turn rte 16 into a 4 lane highway all the way to Conway like BC did with the road to Whistler (from what I understand-I've never been). As it stands, Boston 153 miles from Wildcat and more like 135 from Conway.

 

[ScottySkis]

The latest I heard about the olymics in QC was back in the fall and I can't find the newspaper article, though I believe it was in Le Soleil around October. Mad Pad has an article in french that could easily be translated that has some good info on the mountain:

The only other Eastern option that I haven't heard mentioned is the possibility of using Wildcat A (or maybe B, whichever is the tallest at ~4,400 feet). Of course, it would be a regulatory nightmare getting a lift/downhill trail built there. But, that would open up Boston as an option for the games. I would personally prefer this because it could provoke NH to turn rte 16 into a 4 lane highway all the way to Conway like BC did with the road to Whistler (from what I understand-I've never been). As it stands, Boston 153 miles from Wildcat and more like 135 from Conway.

Well we could always put Hunter and Platty together lol.