Eastern Olympic Venues other than Whiteface

[BenedictGomez]

The minimum requirement for an Olympic mens downhill is 2,624 vert.

Interesting timing of this, I was searching for this answer week ago when I learned they gave South Korea the winter Olympics in 2018, and my reaction was, WTH?!?! Looking into it, they seem to be very generous with the vert there for 2018, because that place looks much like an eastern mountain IMO.

I've heard about those proposals too, but according to Wikipedia it looks like they're concentrating on a summer Olympics for NYC.

Not gonna happen. NYC is in bad shape financially, and the Olympics are a bad investment in which the host city always loses money (assuming honest accountants are involved).

Given their track record, I'm surprised the IOC hasn't awarded a Winter Olympics to Dubai yet.

Well, FIFA gave Qatar the World Cup, so God only knows what scandals will come from that. Lots of sex and money had to be involved.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Interesting timing of this, I was searching for this answer week ago when I learned they gave South Korea the winter Olympics in 2018, and my reaction was, WTH?!?! Looking into it, they seem to be very generous with the vert there for 2018, because that place looks much like an eastern mountain IMO.

South Korea is building a custom facility specifically for the Downhill and Super G events named "Jungbong".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungbong

The course will easily have enough vert (2,929').

My guess is it will be somewhere on this mountain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gariwangsan as it is the only one in the area that reachs 1433m.

 

[St. Bear]

Not gonna happen. NYC is in bad shape financially, and the Olympics are a bad investment in which the host city always loses money (assuming honest accountants are involved).

You act like the people in charge actually care about the host city.

Generally I agree with you, however the US is the one country that could host an Olympics as is, with relatively little to no cost. Now, would that prevent the host city from blowing taxpayer money on new venues anyway? Probably not, but the difference is that the US has the infrastructure to do it on the cheap, if we were so inclined.

 

[loafasaur]

Just curious: why would Stowe be controversial? Deer Valley hosted the aerial events in '02. The Deer Valley of the east should be able to do the same.=)[/QUOTE]

The downhill course would have to go higher on Mansfield. Do you think that development wouldn't cause a stir?

 

[St. Bear]

Just curious: why would Stowe be controversial? Deer Valley hosted the aerial events in '02. The Deer Valley of the east should be able to do the same.=)

The downhill course would have to go higher on Mansfield. Do you think that development wouldn't cause a stir?[/QUOTE]

Or, and stay with me here, they could dig a few hundred feet just below the resort base area. Have the finish line be in a underground tunnel.

 

[x10003q]

Here is a video made for the 2012 NYC Summer Olympic Bid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MquWONpfAI

The NYC bid is long dead and will never happen. The potential Jets Stadium over the West Side train yards was the cornerstone of the plan. That area has been repurposed.

An Eastern US winter Olympics will never happen. While Lake Placid has the venues, it does not have the infrastucture. It barely pulled off the 1980 games. Will all the tax payers who want to give money to the Olympic crooks please stand up? Maybe Canada could pull it off in QC or run the Games out of Montreal with some events in LP. I doubt US and Canada could figure it out.

 

[jimmywilson69]

What is LP?

 

[Smellytele]

What is LP?

Really?

 

[jimmywilson69]

Yeah I totally forgot the context of the thread. I wasn't thinking about Lake Placid because I doubt they would double back to that venue because of logistics

 

[x10003q]

Yeah I totally forgot the context of the thread. I wasn't thinking about Lake Placid because I doubt they would double back to that venue because of logistics

The least they could do if they ran the Olympics out of Montreal would be DH/SG on Whiteface, the bobsled/luge/skel in LP and maybe the ski jumping. I do not know if there is another venue that could support the ski jumping near Montreal. They could do all the other ski/snowboard events in the ski areas in Quebec and the hockey and ice skating in and around Montreal. The cross country could be done in and around Montreal also. Lake Placid hosts plenty of national and international events, just usually one at a time.

 

[Smellytele]

The least they could do if they ran the Olympics out of Montreal would be DH/SG on Whiteface, the bobsled/luge/skel in LP and maybe the ski jumping. I do not know if there is another venue that could support the ski jumping near Montreal. They could do all the other ski/snowboard events in the ski areas in Quebec and the hockey and ice skating in and around Montreal. The cross country could be done in and around Montreal also. Lake Placid hosts plenty of national and international events, just usually one at a time.

there is a ski Jump facility near Mount St Anne. At least there was when I was a teenager many moons ago.

 

[4RunnerSkier]

What about Portland, ME / Sunday River? Portland's got a decent bed base along with a few good venues for the indoor competitions. The Civic Center would probably need a renovation / expansion but it's not too far fetched. It's only about 75 miles by car to Sunday River and there's still the old train tracks (used to be a ski train) and a small airport. There's also a world class nordic center in Rumford and Mt. Abram could be used for some events as well. Sunday River doesn't have the vertical for downhill but there's some pretty big mountains just a little ways north in the Mahoosucs...

 

[AdironRider]

What about Portland, ME / Sunday River? Portland's got a decent bed base along with a few good venues for the indoor competitions. The Civic Center would probably need a renovation / expansion but it's not too far fetched. It's only about 75 miles by car to Sunday River and there's still the old train tracks (used to be a ski train) and a small airport. There's also a world class nordic center in Rumford and Mt. Abram could be used for some events as well. Sunday River doesn't have the vertical for downhill but there's some pretty big mountains just a little ways north in the Mahoosucs...

This is a terrible idea.

The Olympics are the pinnacle (or at least thats their goal) of the sport, and they are going to run events in a C level city with zero infastructure and low level intermediate terrain?

The Olympics lose money for every host city. Maine is already one of the top two highest taxed states in the Union. They simply couldnt afford to make a presentation for it, let alone host.

Just because it would be in the Northeast does not mean it would be good.

 

[ScottySkis]

This is a terrible idea.

The Olympics are the pinnacle (or at least thats their goal) of the sport, and they are going to run events in a C level city with zero infastructure and low level intermediate terrain?

The Olympics lose money for every host city. Maine is already one of the top two highest taxed states in the Union. They simply couldnt afford to make a presentation for it, let alone host.

Just because it would be in the Northeast does not mean it would be good.

The food in northeast is great, if I move to Utah I will miss our food.


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[Geoff]

The food in northeast is great, if I move to Utah I will miss our food.

Food in New York City is great. You really can't say the same about the rest of the Northeast. You'll find that the produce in Utah is way better than in the Northeast. It's a day truck run from the fields in California. Other than seafood, all the raw ingredient sources are better.

 

[marcski]

What is LP?

Really?

Liquified Petroleum or Propane, no? I use it in my bbq. :-D

Umm....Jimmy....what's this thread's title again??

 

[MadPatSki]

Whiteface is the only clear choice for a Eastern Men's Downhill.

Sugarloaf could make it, however it would be a pretty subpar DH course.

Those would be the only two existing ski areas it could happen without major changes.

There was a huge debate for the Quebec City Olympic bid for the 2002 games and again recently. The main problem with a Quebec bid would be the lack of vertical for Le Massif. In 2002, they proposed building a ramp at the top and building a temporary finish area on the St. Lawrence.

In January 2011, a bunch of different scenarios were mentioned for a possible venue of a Quebec City Games Men's DH. Everything for Le Massif alternative route to building a course in the Chic Chocs. Many of these comments were made by politician that have a poor knowledge of skiing and/or geography. A downhill in Lake Placid was mentioned as well as in Calgary.

I wrote a blog piece in French at that time where I explore the different scenario mentioned.
[h=2]Québec et les Jeux Olympiques[/h]http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/quebec-et-les-jeux-olympiques/


Here is the translation via Google. Translation isn't always accurate from the original French version.

http://translate.google.com/transla...eotf=1&u=http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2011/

Oh yeah, as someone already mentioned, Quebec City has already started building a new arena.

Winter games in Montreal??? It has been mentioned, but it was by a tiny minority. The overwhelming consensus is that if there are an Eastern Canadian Olympic bid, it will be for games to be hosted by Quebec City.

 

[MadPatSki]

Killington has 3000 feet of vertical

Cannon also if you take the original Taft Trail and then use the old CCC Tuckerbrook trail. Oh yeah, like K, it isn't all downhill.

 

[MadMadWorld]

Older audio clip:

http://www.cbc.ca/archives/categori...s/quebec-citys-removable-ski-hill-mocked.html

Newer Backcountry.com article:

http://www.backcountrymagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=601&Itemid=52

Quebec City would be the only option if the Olympics were to come back to the east coast. Adding 200 something feet to Massif would be a feet onto what is already a VERY small peak would be a feat in itself. Tack on the degree of difficulty and it's almost impossible. Their best chance would be to add 40-50 feet onto Liqouri. There would almost certainly be some backlash from backcountry enthusiasts who would be very pissed at the possibility of having their stashes logged and dynamited. I have skied a number of backcountry spots in the McGerrigle's that would most certainly meet the requirements but they would have to build a TON of infrastructure unless everyone was cool with taking barges between locations.

 

[jimmywilson69]

Liquified Petroleum or Propane, no? I use it in my bbq. :-D

Umm....Jimmy....what's this thread's title again??

You're a little late to the party with that sarcasm. I figured out right after Smelly's post...