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Eastern Olympic Venues other than Whiteface

MadPatSki

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Their best chance would be to add 40-50 feet onto Liqouri.

Vertical isn't the only requirement. Mont Ligouri wouldn't have the slope steepness. I mentioned in my blog piece linked above.

I have skied a number of backcountry spots in the McGerrigle's that would most certainly meet the requirements but they would have to build a TON of infrastructure unless everyone was cool with taking barges between locations.

Le Mt. Nicol Albert was mentioned, I explore it as well as Mt. Albert (as they were some confusion in the Quebec media reports at the time). It wasn't clear cut, unless you blast the place and build a ton of infrastructure inside a protected area.
 

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These numbers seem to be the best indicator of whether an existing resort has a chance to host an Olympic based on its "True-Up" vertical. From this, it seems pretty obvious that Whiteface would be the only logical choice for existing resorts (though I was pleasantly surprised by Sugarbush). All the other mountains on this list ski from the peak of their mountain so Theoretically this only takes into consideration skiable trails so Stowe could easily make the requirement if they built a true trail from the Chin but that won't happen

http://mountainvertical.com/best-skiing-east-coast-snowboarding.php
 

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I believe Ligouri does but only in a few select places. You would have to bring some experts in to cut it and bring a few sticks of dynamite but I truly believe the blog is wrong and it is possible.

Both places would be the logical destination based on proximity. You are right though it would be pretty much impossible to find a mountain with enough vert that is outside a protected refuge or a mountain inside the protected refuge that wouldn't need to be logged and blasted. In a pipedream my destination would be the Mines Madeleine area with Comte, Petit St. Anne, and Jacques-Cartier in such close proximity but that will NEVER happen which is okay with me!
 

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I believe Ligouri does but only in a few select places. You would have to bring some experts in to cut it and bring a few sticks of dynamite but I truly believe the blog is wrong and it is possible.

The blog is written by skiing geographer. The Mont Ligouri options was also shotdown by the FIS for the topographical challenges slope wise for that option (believe it is mentioned in one of the media links up in the piece (maybe not active anymore).

In a pipedream my destination would be the Mines Madeleine area with Comte, Petit St. Anne, and Jacques-Cartier in such close proximity but that will NEVER happen which is okay with me!

Les Mines 1 and 2 wouldn't have the vertical. Maybe le Petit Mt Ste-Anne if you continue down the logging road? Mt. Albert is the only close one in term of slope and vert, however it would take a fortune to make it skiable for a downhill race. And yes, it will never happen, which is definitely okay with me.
 

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The blog is written by skiing geographer. The Mont Ligouri options was also shotdown by the FIS for the topographical challenges slope wise for that option (believe it is mentioned in one of the media links up in the piece (maybe not active anymore).



Les Mines 1 and 2 wouldn't have the vertical. Maybe le Petit Mt Ste-Anne if you continue down the logging road? Mt. Albert is the only close one in term of slope and vert, however it would take a fortune to make it skiable for a downhill race. And yes, it will never happen, which is definitely okay with me.

I will take your word for it. But where would they have to start the run from on Albert to get enough consistent vertical? On the more open area of Patrouillieurs? I was referring to Mines as more of a central jump off point for those other 3 mountains. Your right, all the stuff below Mines would be way too short. I think Petit could work with the logging road. If they ever added mountaineering to the Olympics, Logan would be prime real estate. Damn I just high jacked this thread with my own day dreaming ski porn!
 

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I will take your word for it. But where would they have to start the run from on Albert to get enough consistent vertical? On the more open area of Patrouillieurs?

As mentioned in French...the google translation isn't clear. See map. Not open terrain, but everything is possible for building, right?
http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/quebec-et-les-jeux-olympiques/

Red line : Mur des patrouilleurs : not enough vert
Blue line: Enough, but...

Yeah, they managed to built a downhill in Val d'Isère on Face de Bellevarde for the 1992 Men DH. It wouldn't be easy. It would be crazy...but it's never going to happen. That terrible is permanent off-limits for skiing, although I know someone that ski it and paid the price (i.e. fine).

http://madpatski.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/albert2022.jpg



I was referring to Mines as more of a central jump off point for those other 3 mountains. Your right, all the stuff below Mines would be way too short. I think Petit could work with the logging road. If they ever added mountaineering to the Olympics, Logan would be prime real estate. Damn I just high jacked this thread with my own day dreaming ski porn!

I didn't look at it when I wrote the blog piece, mind you I was just going over places mentioned. If you want to talk about dreaming ski porn, there would be amount vertical in Quebec's Torngats Mountain on the border with Labrador.

St. Bear said:
For most of the afternoon, I thought Pat was talking to himself.

LOL.

It would look like that...between MadMadWorld, Ski Mad World (the blog) and MadPatSki...it gets confusing.
 

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As mentioned in French...the google translation isn't clear. See map. Not open terrain, but everything is possible for building, right?
http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/quebec-et-les-jeux-olympiques/

Red line : Mur des patrouilleurs : not enough vert
Blue line: Enough, but...

Yeah, they managed to built a downhill in Val d'Isère on Face de Bellevarde for the 1992 Men DH. It wouldn't be easy. It would be crazy...but it's never going to happen. That terrible is permanent off-limits for skiing, although I know someone that ski it and paid the price (i.e. fine).

http://madpatski.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/albert2022.jpg





I didn't look at it when I wrote the blog piece, mind you I was just going over places mentioned. If you want to talk about dreaming ski porn, there would be amount vertical in Quebec's Torngats Mountain on the border with Labrador.



LOL.

It would look like that...between MadMadWorld, Ski Mad World (the blog) and MadPatSki...it gets confusing.

I didn't even check out your original links because the translation link was broken. I was going off of my own memory of Albert. What is that area in blue called? I can only point out Grand Cuvee and Mur Des Patrouilleurs. Any idea what the vert is for Mur des patrouilleurs? That would be a perfect slope if it was more sustained.

I have had many dreams of skiing the Torngats. Have you made that trek? It's on my skiing bucket list. There is some very nasty terrain up there. And they say there is no big mountain skiing out here!

I think you have done some great research after reading that page. A couple of points:

For the love of god, QC should not do a joint Olympic with Calgary unless they plan to go further west then Nakiska. That place is kind of a joke. I realize Lake Louise is a little further but it would be such a better venue for DH. Hell, if they really want to keep it closer to Calgary then they should clean up Fortress and do it there.

The Olympics should be in one country. Sharing an Olympic with Lake Placid would be cool but I don't think the IOC would go for it.
 
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South Korea is building a custom facility specifically for the Downhill and Super G events named "Jungbong".

The course will easily have enough vert (2,929').

When I looked at the map, it seems to me that they'd be cutting it close or being generous with the runout, but maybe I'm wrong.


The downhill course would have to go higher on Mansfield. Do you think that development wouldn't cause a stir?

You kidding? The Eco-extremists dont let you cut a blade of grass without 18 legal challenges.

The Olympics lose money for every host city. Maine is already one of the top two highest taxed states in the Union. They simply couldnt afford to make a presentation for it, let alone host.

I loffed :-D


The Olympics should be in one country.
Sharing an Olympic with Lake Placid would be cool but I don't think the IOC would go for it.

Agreed 100%. I dont even like "sharing" between cities, but sharing between nations would be weak.
 

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Are there more resorts other than Whiteface in the East that have the necessary runs to host olympic ski events and the beds to accommodate everyone?

Just curious. It would be really cool to get the Olympics back to the USA, and it would be awesome to get them going in the East.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that's a good one!
 

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Dude WTF is wrong with you?

This is a friendly forum bruh, no need to be rude

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Food in New York City is great. You really can't say the same about the rest of the Northeast. You'll find that the produce in Utah is way better than in the Northeast. It's a day truck run from the fields in California. Other than seafood, all the raw ingredient sources are better.

Are you talking Monsanto quality produce or local organic produce? Monsanto produce taste the same on the west coast as it does in the midwest as it does in the east....5 days after it was picked. Unless you are a food snob you really wouldn't notice a difference.
 

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Are you talking Monsanto quality produce or local organic produce? Monsanto produce taste the same on the west coast as it does in the midwest as it does in the east....5 days after it was picked. Unless you are a food snob you really wouldn't notice a difference.

Food in the London Olympic venues was by and large quite bad. Also, other than at the white water park, they only served Heineken.
 

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Food in the London Olympic venues was by and large quite bad. Also, other than at the white water park, they only served Heineken.



I hear all food in London is not very good. Was the Heineken better tasting their then in US, I heard before it taste better in Europe because they have more alcohol in the bottle thanks to US law that limits the amount and gives it It's funny taste.
 

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I hear all food in London is not very good. Was the Heineken better tasting their then in US, I heard before it taste better in Europe because they have more alcohol in the bottle thanks to US law that limits the amount and gives it It's funny taste.

The Heineken seemed like nasty sugar water with beer flavor.

London has come a very long way in terms of food. High end french food has always been available there, and we've all heard about the curry. However, run of the mill food available in any given restaurant or pub (and the fabled gastropub) is much improved over where it was not too long ago.
 
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