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Seems to me like instead of downloading that ringtone, and driving anyone who can hear it into a murderous rage, you could just put your phone on vibrate.
 

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I can hear both sounds. The high frequency tone sounds exactly like the high frequency noise that comes from a CRT TV or monitor that is audible when there are no other sounds to cover it up.

That's how I always know if I left my TV on after shutting off my cable box and stereo.

Good point about the vibrate though.
 

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I think the attraction is that 1) you can hear the vibrate if you're close and B) it's always more fun to pull one over on the old fogeys.

I can hear the whole thing, but that doesn't mean I'm too young to tell you to get off my lawn.
 

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I'm really sensitive to high pitch. Some flourescent lights, tvs drive me nuts. Something to look forward to as I age!
 

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Huh...I'm 48 and I hear it fine. I'm sure alot of other adults would too if they took the time to concentrate a bit.

Are teachers so out of it that they don't know what the kids are doing as they type furiously on mini-me keypads? I mean really, it's pretty noticeable if you just look.

The lights may be on, but increasingly nobody's home. I don't rely on teachers to discipline my kids anyway. They may get away with it for a while, but my wife and I will find out.

I always tell my boys that anything they're thinking I've already done, so don't.
 

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I hear the tone itself, annoying but not painful. The ring tone though, I only hear a slight high pitched whine. If it was my phone, I probably would miss the call and dismiss it as backround noise (just like a CRT)

By the way, im 23

Strangely, it made my dog wag his tail.
 
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BeanoNYC said:
This teacher hears it just fine.

Hey Beano, I figure most teachers hear it just fine. My post was poorly written...sounds like I'm blaming teachers and that's not what I meant. Tough to teach and pay attention to all this crap.

Can anyone tell me why kids are even allowed to have cell phones in school?
 

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JimG. said:
Are teachers so out of it that they don't know what the kids are doing as they type furiously on mini-me keypads? I mean really, it's pretty noticeable if you just look.

Some kids I know, myself included, can type without looking at the keypad. That being said, I'm not someone who's constantly sending text messages during class.
 

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John84 said:
Some kids I know, myself included, can type without looking at the keypad. That being said, I'm not someone who's constantly sending text messages during class.

Ohhhh...a wiseguy, huh?

Just kidding...so, these kids you know hide the handheld device under the desk or between their legs so nobody can see it? How do they read responses without looking?

Listen, no matter how "good" someone is at concealing this stuff, it's noticeable. Don't kid yourself, and I don't think you do since you've specified that you don't text in class.

I admit I'm a discipline Nazi...my boys don't get away with squat. And my wife is the general of the discipline army, my family's nuclear arsenal as it were.

Do teachers ever notice and discipline these kids? Are they asked to stand up in front of the class and tell everyone what was so important in the message? Or is that considered too damaging to someone's self esteem nowadays?

If I were the teacher, after making the texting kid tell the whole class what was in the message, I would use the cell phone to call the kid's parents and tell them what was up assuming they'd want to know..
 

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They are debating the cells in school in many towns in CT now. Stuff I did for kicks back in teh 70's would be on the news today (in fact I saw one story this morning that could have been a flashback to my HS graduation night)

My nephew had his first encounter with the law a couple of years ago, my brother & I were more upset he broke rule number one, he got caught.

Now back 25-30 years ago, if I had gotten caught I'd have been beaten, (I'd have been better off in jail, even as a young boy)

That said, & not wanting to discipline my kids that way (all it did for me & my brothers was give us a high pain threshold so I can do 28 mile, 6 peak day-hikes, or one brother runs 10K & 1/2 marathons while the other bike races every weekend & does 100's)

Any novel ideas on punishing kids I can use in 12 years. The boy is only three but I can tell is a chip off the old block(head) in 12 years my 28 mile hike would be easier if I did not carry a pack & he carried two?
 

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Mike P. said:
Any novel ideas on punishing kids I can use in 12 years. The boy is only three but I can tell is a chip off the old block(head) in 12 years my 28 mile hike would be easier if I did not carry a pack & he carried two?

Punish is such an ugly word...I prefer discipline.

Here's a thought I try to live by...walk the walk and don't just talk the talk. Parents who smoke raise kids who smoke; parents who beat their kids raise kids who wind up beating their kids; parents who live with a cell phone glued to one ear raise kids who are addicted to the cell phone.

You reap what you sow.
 

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JimG. said:
Ohhhh...a wiseguy, huh?

Just kidding...so, these kids you know hide the handheld device under the desk or between their legs so nobody can see it? How do they read responses without looking?

Kids that I notice will wait until the teacher has turned to face the board, or the ones that tend to text all class long will take quick glance at their screen and then look back towards the teacher.

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Listen, no matter how "good" someone is at concealing this stuff, it's noticeable. Don't kid yourself, and I don't think you do since you've specified that you don't text in class.

I admit I'm a discipline Nazi...my boys don't get away with squat. And my wife is the general of the discipline army, my family's nuclear arsenal as it were.

Do teachers ever notice and discipline these kids? Are they asked to stand up in front of the class and tell everyone what was so important in the message? Or is that considered too damaging to someone's self esteem nowadays?

Depends on the teacher. With some teachers they'll take away your phone and give it back at the end of class. Other will take a stricter route and tell you that you can get it back from an administrator. While still others could care less what you do as long as you don't disrupt any other kids.

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If I were the teacher, after making the texting kid tell the whole class what was in the message, I would use the cell phone to call the kid's parents and tell them what was up assuming they'd want to know..

Sounds good to me, but it would never fly in my school (unfortunately).
 

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John84 said:
Sounds good to me, but it would never fly in my school (unfortunately).

I figured as much. I doubt it would fly in any schools now, that's part of the problem.
 

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My kids have cell phones. They are not allowed to be turned on in school during school hours, but they are allowed on property so kids can call parents after school from sporting events or play practice.. stuff like that. Safety issues ie getting them picked up safely.
 

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jim, i think you need to get back in the pits of ski instruction and see first hand how obnoxious, mal-disiplined and disrespectful todays kids are.

The company that made this ringtone is lined up for a class action. I mean, sure go ahead, listen to it ring. The teachers may be deaf but not blind...that is until they come out with a predator series cell phone or something.
 

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NYDrew said:
jim, i think you need to get back in the pits of ski instruction and see first hand how obnoxious, mal-disiplined and disrespectful todays kids are.

Ha! I live in the pits of parenthood with 3 boys to deal with. But my boys are well behaved and know right from wrong. That does not mean they never screw up, because they do plenty. But they do respond to discipline.

And I taught kid's seasonal programs for a few years and know all too well how obnoxious kids can be. My kids always acted properly with me though. I refused to put up with any crap from kids and the ones who didn't like that didn't last long in my group.
 

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JimG. said:
Ha! I live in the pits of parenthood with 3 boys to deal with.

I have 2 boys, and we have the reputation as the "strict" parents. I like to think my boys are well behaved and have been told that they are often enough. However....

...I harbor no illusions that they are angels. I am bracing for the later teen years, since the apple does not fall far from the tree. What I remember of my youth, and the tales I have heard of my father's youth portend mayhem and mischief. ;)

It's the quiet ones that you have to watch out for.
 
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