I agree with cornhead about snow density. Central Mass gets a lot of thick wet snow vs Wolf Creek getting 5 percent blower. Not apples to apples. Wolf Creek with three feet of fluff is unreal. When was the last time wawa got three feet of pow under 10 percent?
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Lake Effect At It Again
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Probably during the last ice age
MadMadWorld
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Yea I couldn't tell you. MAYBE 1993 they got 2+ feet but even that would be very unlikely.
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It all depends on the low pressure system here. Some storms are DRY/LIGHT snow at that elevation in northern worcester county. Hell this past storm we got nearly 2 feet BLOWER DRY powder at 15 to 1 ratios right at the COAST just north of boston. (rare at the coast, but more common inland)
Some storms are wet snow, some are dry. This isn't the sierra's where it's usually cement. Like everyhting else in new england, it constantly varies.
MadMadWorld
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Snoseek you should have known he's an expert climatologist as well.
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I do remember that but it was more like 2 feet. I spent 3 days without electricity. It was light but not as much as this last one. Couldn't tell you the water content because I know nothing about that.
LOL....."only" 2 feet. Honestly, that was lower elevations coming at 1000 feet with 24+ inches. So up at 2000 feet at wachusett they probably got even more. They get quite a bit of snow at wachusett. They get some dumps up there. More than jiminy peak due to it's sweet spot for nor'easter. Wawa probably averages nearly 100 inches a year considering locations aound it that are at it's base elevation average about 75 inches a year.
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Where do you live? That's a bullshit number thrown out by them. If average means last year then Yea they got that. Wachusett's base is at 1,000 ft and it's summit is 2,000. Your not going to see much difference between what falls there and some of the hills of Leominster and Fitchburg. I'm sorry this is getting way too local for some people.
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This thread is out of control, I like it! I seem to remember one of the meathead films they were hiking random 100 foot gullys and riverbanks all around Tug Hill. It looked like they were skiing interior British Columbia! Powder engulfing them. It doesn't matter where you ski as long as there is some pitch and the water content is low you will have fun. If wa wa got LES like they do at Snow Ridge it would be the next Alta!
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Cement? The term "Sierra Cement" is way overplayed. It's not intermountain west blower for sure but overall the moisture content averages much lower than the Northeast and I don't consider Vermont's snow as "usually cement" by any means.
I live on planet earth...what planet are you from?
http://ggweather.com/normals/MA.html
30 year climate normals.
Worcester airport is at 64.(1000 feet) ASHBURNHAM right by wachusett has a 74 inch average. So add another 1000 feet and you could be closing on nearly 100. I'd say a good estimation at 1500 feet would be about 85 inches.
Snap...OWNED AGAIN. LOL
The real bullshitting of numbers doesn't have until you get into vt and the magical jay cloud...lmao
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St. Bear
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I don't think this is true. Tony Crocker did a post on this on his site, www.bestsnow.net. I'd link it if I were on a laptop, but snow analysis from Mt. Mansfield wasn't any more or less moisture laden than UT, if I remember correctly.
That guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. He believes VT ski resorts numbers with no official nws data backing any of it up. He pulls the numbers out of his ass. Hell mount mansfield at the high point in vt at like 4400 feet only averages 220 inches of snow a year. So how these resorts are pulling mid to high 300's is laughable. Tug hill smokes vt on snowfall.(tug hill averages 250 at it's sweet spot) VT has better terrain obviously, thus why so many ski areas there. If northern vt got that type of snowfall they wouldn't need all those snow guns pumping out that shit fake ice crap.
You're probably correct on this although Stowe gets that nice light fluff. I was just calling out the term sierra cement and usually together. Fact of the matter is those pineapple express storms are quite heavy but anything out of the north is powder like anywhere else. In my three winters the vast majority of snow events have come out of the north and not been cement at all. 5 feet of cement is always a good thing for the steep stuff though....I would gladly take it right now
St. Bear
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Mt. Mansfield's numbers are from the UVM field lab. Outside of Mt. Washington, it's probably the most reliable snowfall observation on the East Coast.
YES THAT'S MY POINT! If mt mansfield at it's summit is only averaging 220, how is jay peak getting 375???? BULLSHIT! Oh yeah the jay cloud :roll:
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