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Man arrested for punching 14yr old girl in CO (Beaver Creek)

riverc0il

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You can tell they haven't gotten much snow recently when this type of thing is big news. Clearly inexcusable behavior even if only minor injuries were sustained.
 

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Vail/BC has been getting pretty much pounded this year - so its not a lack of snow causing this coverage.
 

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You can tell they haven't gotten much snow recently when this type of thing is big news. Clearly inexcusable behavior even if only minor injuries were sustained.

Inexcuseable behavior, no doubt. But I will say that as a parent, if I saw my 4 year old getting run into by a much larger person, I can see how that knee jerk reaction can happen. Sometimes one's reactions change a bit when it's THEIR young kid involved
 

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Filler claims all he saw was a tall person in a helmet and ski gear and that he didn't know she was a girl.

So this would have been okay in his mind if it had been a male that he attacked?

There's no excuse for that, regardless of if his kid was hurt or not.
 

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So this would have been okay in his mind if it had been a male that he attacked?

There's no excuse for that, regardless of if his kid was hurt or not.

Agree.

age, sex, appearence, race, none of that at all could justify clocking anyone for an honest mistake on the bunny slope.
 

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Slope rage, is that a good term for it? I mean road rage is one thing, since you drive around to get somewhere, not for enjoyment. When you are in a situation where you are supposed to be enjoying yourself where does the rage come from?
 

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The guy is a jerk and an idiot. He said he thought his kid was injured so he immediately attacks the skier who ran into him? Did he assume someone had targeted his kid? His first reaction should have been to check on his own kid who, it turns out, was just fine. Jerk.
 

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Slope rage, is that a good term for it? I mean road rage is one thing, since you drive around to get somewhere, not for enjoyment. When you are in a situation where you are supposed to be enjoying yourself where does the rage come from?

When you see YOUR own young child get run into by someone else, and the emotional side of your brain takes over from the logical side. If you don't have kids of your own, you probably can't relate to how this happens when you see your child get hurt, even in a purley accidental situation
 

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When you see YOUR own young child get run into by someone else, and the emotional side of your brain takes over from the logical side. If you don't have kids of your own, you probably can't relate to how this happens when you see your child get hurt, even in a purley accidental situation

I can totally relate, got 3 of my own and know firsthand some of the feelings this father probably had in those few moments of terror. But thats not my point, I am questioning if calling it "slope rage" which to me clearly relates it to "road rage" is a appropriate term here. I would not call what the father did "slope rage" but more of a instinctive knee-jerk paternalistic reaction to a perceived threat. He wasn't cut off or otherwise disrespected to which he stewed for a while then exploded.
 

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When you see YOUR own young child get run into by someone else, and the emotional side of your brain takes over from the logical side. If you don't have kids of your own, you probably can't relate to how this happens when you see your child get hurt, even in a purley accidental situation

I understand the emotion you are expressing. What happens when/if this emotion takes over and the wrong guy gets hit (rightly or wrongly) and kicks the living sh*t out of you because of emotion? Or stabs, shoots, maims in some other way?

Unfortunately, these are the realities that occur in the world today.
 

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When you see YOUR own young child get run into by someone else, and the emotional side of your brain takes over from the logical side. If you don't have kids of your own, you probably can't relate to how this happens when you see your child get hurt, even in a purley accidental situation

I don't have kids but I have a wife---I'd like to think I wouldn't react that way. but you never know---right or wrong, emotions make people do strange things that other people say.....I'd never do that, really??? Ya never know.
 

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I was giving a ski lesson when a person took out the child I was teaching. I really laid into that person about leaving some room for mistake and watching out for others. They apologized to my student, after I told them to. I was tempted to pull their pass but figured my words were strong enough!!
 

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I have 2 young kids and if someone on the bunny slope inadvertantly crahed into them, no matter what the age/sex I would definitly view that as an accident unless it was a non beginner flying through the area. It is the bunny slope and you have to assume people have no clue how to ski.

If one of them was run over by an uphill skier/boarder on a blue/black trail then that is a different story, that person should know the code and know what they are doing, my reaction in that case would be different. First priority would be the kid then the offender. Would I punch them, I hope not, but like DRJeff said emotions can take over when it is your kid but hopefully reality would set in and I would see what stands to be lost if I kick the crap out of someone.

Hoefully nobody on this board will have to deal with this issue anytime.
 

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I'm extremely protective of my daughter.. Obviously this was a bad move by the guy, but I can totally relate to the overreaction.
 

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"Scott Filler, 41, was with his 4-year-old son when the teen girl, swerving to avoid another skier, accidentally bumped into the boy, causing a collision, a spokesman with the Eagle County Sheriff's Office said.

The ski instructor who pulled the Decatur man off the girl told deputies Filler punched her "at least four times, using a closed fist," Lt. Mike McWilliam told the AJC. Two other witnesses said they observed Filler yell at the girl before landing two or three punches, the sheriff's office spokesman said."


All this took place on a beginner slope and the 14-year old girl was in a ski school class. There is no reason or excuse for his actions. It will be interesting to see how this incident is resolved through the courts.
 

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I'll bet the 14-year old girl's father would love to have a chat with that guy.
 
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