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Notch Effect: the downside

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Actually, its never enforced. I've never heard of anyone being asked not to skin.

Indeed it is. Current management is against all 'uphill traffic.' Just the other day someone was kicked off and was threatened with having their season pass revoked for skiing.
 

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Why were they skinning if they had a season pass anyways? If it was for the exercise, why didn't they just show their pass? I don't believe for a second that a pass holder was kicked off the mountain for skinning.
 

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Funny how the person who laid out the trails on Cannon always thought it was located on the wrong side of the mountain. Tuckerbrook and Mitt made more sense from a wind management perspective.
If you are referring to Sel Hannah, he didn't layout the original trails. I can't remember when he came on board but it was after many of the main trails were already cut. Taft Race Course was a well cut trail but Mittersill definitely doesn't get as much snow as Cannon proper. Look at Tuckerbrook this year at lower elevation, total rock garden. Less wind yes, but less snow too.
 

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If you are referring to Sel Hannah, he didn't layout the original trails. I can't remember when he came on board but it was after many of the main trails were already cut. Taft Race Course was a well cut trail but Mittersill definitely doesn't get as much snow as Cannon proper. Look at Tuckerbrook this year at lower elevation, total rock garden. Less wind yes, but less snow too.

From McPhaul's book it seems Roland Peabody had a lot to do with putting the tram where is is.
 

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As I thought. I'll clarify my comment that it doesn't happen when the ski area isn't open. Skinning/hiking an open ski area is just dumb.

There are hikers on Kinsman all the time. What do they do screen for people with skis? Magic has an open door policy for uphill traffic. Maybe they assume no one in their right mind would skin up with lifts running but I gotta believe it would really only be one or two fanatics. Why is Cannon against it. Safety issues?
 

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As I thought. I'll clarify my comment that it doesn't happen when the ski area isn't open. Skinning/hiking an open ski area is just dumb.

Doubly so if you already have pass.

Although technically this would still agree with Threecy's statement of "selective enforcement" . I.e. they enforce it when it creates an issue and they don't when it doesn't. I'm a big fan of people in positions of enforcement/authority who are able to apply common sense and a real understanding of the purpose of the rules. Unfortunately there are a lot of folks who try to push and test the rules and the authorities in order to make a philosophical point. I can relate, I used to do that in junior high. I grew out of it at about 18. My life's been better ever since.
 

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Cannon giveth and Cannon taketh away.Has always been that way.I didn't bother goinig north on Friday cuz I knew from many moons of experience that there was a good chance of it not being open when the south wind a cometh.Today,a surprize 7-10 with only BW getting anything close.Loon and Wallyworld got 2.Franconia Notch certainly gives Cannon a unique climate to the rest of the NE in both good and bad.
 

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they enforce it when it creates an issue and they don't when it doesn't.

I'm sorry but I don't understand this statement. Can you clarify? What issue are they trying to create?


The passholder had skinned up Mittersill.

Patrol is claiming skinning is no longer allowed at Cannon Mountain.

So it WAS allowable but no longer? Gotta wonder why. This makes no sense.
 
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